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Star Trek: Prodigy Season 1, Episode 11, 'Asylum,' Recap & Spoilers

Star Trek: Prodigy is back with a fiery midseason premiere as the Protostar faces the evil within. Here is a spoiler-filled Paramount+ recap.

The following contains spoilers for Star Trek: Prodigy Season 1, Episode 11, "Asylum," now streaming on Paramount+.

Star Trek: Prodigy is back with an exciting midseason premiere as the ragtag group of young misfits behind the USS Protostar spread Starfleet’s ideals throughout the cosmos. After their fierce showdown with the villainous Diviner in the midseason finale, Dal and his friends have embraced Starfleet’s mission of hope and compassion while bringing a fresh perspective to the iconic universe, guided by an advanced hologram of Kathryn Janeway. But as they attempt to return the Protostar to Starfleet, the group manning this experimental starship discover there is an even greater danger within.

The crew of the Protostar are rescuing an endangered aquatic creature from poachers while being careful not to violate the Prime Directive. Dal leads his friends to save the creature -- though not before Gwyn experiences a vision of her father and genetic progenitor, the Diviner, nearly derailing the mission. After returning the creature to safety, Dal reflects that it has been weeks since they defeated the Diviner. Since then, they've continued to perform good deeds around the galaxy to endear themselves to Starfleet once they return the Protostar .

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Feeling they have built up enough good will, the Protostar crew decides to make formal contact with Starfleet by arriving at a remote communications relay -- the furthest Starfleet installation from the heart of the Federation. The crew introduces themselves and their circumstances to the sole officer manning the station before undergoing a biometric scan, though Gwyn is unrecognized by the scanner and Dal is listed as a species of mysterious importance. Zero has Gwyn use the relay’s advanced medical technology to resolve her fractured memories.... but the process is interrupted when the station’s systems abruptly go haywire.

The hologram Janeway deduces that something is causing the relay to turn against itself. It quickly destroys itself as its commander escapes to safety and blames the Protostar crew as saboteurs. Using environmental suits, Dal leads his friends to exit the station and brave the cold vacuum of space to return to the ship. Gwyn receives another vision of her father and realizes that the Diviner programmed the Protostar to become a Trojan Horse, tearing Starfleet apart from within.

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The real Janeway recalls being home , sending off her old friend and crewmate Chakotay when he received command of the USS Protostar years ago --- before he went missing in the Delta Quadrant. Janeway leads a landing party onto Tars Lamora and they board the Diviner’s vessel, unaware of his villainous nature and devastating vendetta against Starfleet. Finding the Diviner alone and alive, albeit unconscious and weakened, Janeway decides to take in the cosmic antagonist to learn what she can about Chakotay’s fate and current whereabouts.

Both the Protostar and Janeway’s new starship have taken on an unexpected evil underneath their respective hulls, unaware of the full nature of what they each face. For the Protostar , the peril is hardwired to the starship itself, making the experimental craft a deadly weapon that could rip Starfleet apart from the inside. With Janeway determinedly scouring the Delta Quadrant for the Protostar , Dal and his friends will have to play a cosmic game of keep-away to keep everyone safe.

Created by Kevin and Dan Hageman, Star Trek: Prodigy releases new episodes Thursdays on Paramount+.

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'Star Trek: Prodigy' makes its mid-season return to Paramount+ on October 27.

After an 8-month hiatus, Star Trek: Prodigy has beamed back down to Paramount+ with an exhilarating mid-season premiere that is sure to delight young viewers and audiences that are young at heart. Episode 11, aptly titled “Asylum,” picks up a few weeks after where the series left audiences in February, with the crew of the U.S.S. Protostar picking up the pieces after their near-death encounter with the Diviner ( John Noble ) on Tars Lamora and charting a course towards maybe, just maybe, joining Starfleet by legitimate means.

The episode opens on Dal ( Brett Gray ) and the rest of his motley crew—Rok-Tahk ( Rylee Alazraqui ), Jankom Pog ( Jason Mantazoukas ), and Murf (Dee Bradley Baker)—trying to rescue space whales from local hunters without breaking the Prime Directive. Following the events on Tars Lamora, which saw Gwyn ( Elle Purnell ) lose most of the memories related to her father, the Diviner, after being exposed to her Medusan crewmember Zero ( Angus Imrie ), she’s mostly down for the count at the beginning of the episode, while Zero continues running scans and reassuring her that she’ll eventually get better. While things are still very status quo between Dal and Gwyn, Dal makes a note of Gwyn’s situation in his Captain’s Log, which is a nice little tease for fans who might want to see the duo become more than just friends and crew members. Theirs is a very fun dynamic , especially now that Gwyn has learned to trust Dal and the rest of the crew. Though, there’s every chance that something might happen in the future that turns her against them, especially with the Diviner out there scheming. But when has Star Trek hurt us like that? (Too often!)

The jaunt to rescue a space whale is a nice opening sequence for “Asylum,” but the episode’s real plot kicks in when the crew, under Hologram Janeway’s ( Kate Mulgrew ) guidance, makes their way to Federation Communication Relay Station, as part of their new quest to join Starfleet. Seeing as the station is positioned out in the middle of the Delta Quadrant, they aren’t met by a chorus of greetings, but are instead greeted by the lone officer stationed there. Lieutenant, Jr. Grade Barniss Frex ( Eric Bauza ) is shocked to have visitors and even more shocked to encounter a crew of youths on a misadventure aboard a stolen Starfleet vessel. Nevertheless, Frex welcomes them aboard the station with open arms and helps them set up profiles in the system, by way of full-body scans to log their species and other various vital details.

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The scans go about as well as one can expect from the hodgepodge crew of the Protostar , with Jankom discovering that he might be Tellarite royalty, and Dal learning that… Well, Dal doesn’t actually learn what he is—people have long speculated about what species (or combination of species) he might be, but the scan comes up empty-handed, and worse the scan comes with a pretty ominous message: “Report to Starfleet Command.” The mystery of Dal’s origins seems to be the next major plot point that Star Trek: Prodigy will seek to unravel, leaving audiences to speculate what all of this might mean for him. Is he a missing person? Connected to a character we already know? Or is it just a red herring for something larger? “Asylum” doesn’t give us much time to question Dal’s origins, because the Diviner’s sinister plan from the first half of the season kicks into high-gear, forever altering the trajectory of the episode.

The moment that Frex connects the relay station to the U.S.S. Protostar , it becomes a Trojan Horse—triggering the Vau N'akat weapon at the heart of the ship to corrupt the relay station and force it to start self-destructing. Believing that the crew has betrayed him, Frex makes a quick escape in the sole escape pod aboard the station, leaving Dal and his crew to find their own way off the station before It's too late. Elsewhere on the ship, Zero’s continued examination of Gwyn nearly turns deadly when the ship’s self-destruct protocols cause the medical chamber she is resting in to start filling up with liquid. Luckily Dal manages to rescue her right in the nick of time and the whole harrowing process starts to jog her memories of what happened before Tars Lamora. Their escape is left up to the quick-thinking mathematics of Rok-Tahk, which leads to them essentially space-walking their way back aboard the Protostar , with a little assistance from Janeway’s hologram and a tractor beam.

Elsewhere in the Delta Quadrant, the real Vice Admiral Janeway is revisiting old memories of Captain Chakotay ( Robert Beltran ) before he set out aboard the Protostar , hoping to recall something about their past encounters that might help her to locate him. Her continued investigation takes the crew of the Dauntless to Tars Lamora, where they discover the Diviner’s comatose form. Unaware of the danger he poses to Starfleet, they bring him aboard their ship in hopes that reviving him might give them vital clues to Chakotay’s whereabouts.

Overall, “Asylum” is a welcome return to the corner of the Star Trek universe that Dan and Kevin Hageman have created with their ever-talented creative team. Prodigy continues to dole out the perfect amount of nostalgia that never overshadows its brilliant new cast of characters that audiences have fallen in love with. Each member of the Protostar crew has a unique backstory, emotional state, and personality—helping to shape one of the best unofficial Starfleet crew the franchise has ever seen. The core of the Protostar might hold a deadly weapon, but the heart of the crew is a much more powerful thing.

Looking Ahead at Season 1

As with the first half of Season 1, Star Trek: Prodigy continues to embrace its episodic nature, presenting the crew of the Protostar with new planets and challenges each week while delivering a tight and cohesive storyline that runs between each episode. Even though the return of the Outrageous Okona has been known for over a month now , his introduction to a brand-new audience is no less entertaining, and far from the only surprise waiting on the horizon.

Star Trek: Prodigy may be designed for children, but that demographic allows the series to strike straight at the heart of what makes Star Trek a generational adventure; one filled with personal insight, friendship, morals, and themes packaged into a colorful story set among the stars. These themes are represented throughout the first five episodes of the second half of Season 1, with several characters looking inwards to find purpose, discover who they truly are, and face the consequences of actions much larger than themselves.

Star Trek: Prodigy ’s mid-season return is streaming now on Paramount+.

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STAR TREK: PRODIGY Midseason Premiere Recap: (S01E11) Asylum

Posted by Avery Kaplan | Oct 27, 2022 | Recaps & Reviews , Science Fiction , Star Trek , TV & Streaming | 0

The midseason premiere of Star Trek: Prodigy , “Asylum,” sees the crew of the USS Protostar making first contact with Starfleet… but will they survive the experience? Prodigy season 1 episode 11 was written by Kevin and Dan Hageman and directed by Steve In Chang Ahn & Sung Shin.

The One With the Whales

On an oceanic planet, hunters armed with spears pursue an alien whale. Meanwhile, the poachers are pursued by a submersible containing Captain Dal R’el ( Brett Gray ), Gwyn ( Ella Purnell ), and Jankom Pog ( Jason Mantzoukas ). 

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Dal emphasizes that they cannot let the poachers see them, or it will violate the Prime Directive. Gwyn notes that the whale is one of the last of its kind, and as a vital part of the planet’s ecosystem, the poachers unwittingly court doom by hunting her. Jankom Pog wonders why they have volunteered to be fish bait. Dal states it will make them look better when they appeal to Starfleet and attempt to explain why they’ve stolen the Protostar .

Gwyn’s piloting of the submersible is compromised by a flashback to her father, The Diviner ( John Noble ). In a memory from the midseason finale, “ A Moral Star: Part 2 ,” The Diviner states, “It is a weapon.” But the flashback has caused her to navigate the ship directly into the whale’s mouth.

Fortunately, the submersible has become lodged inside the whale’s mouth. Jankom states that he swore he’d never be eaten alive (again). Dal uses his comm badge to call for help from Zero ( Angus Imrie ). 

The whale swims closer to the surface and is subsequently beamed aboard the Protostar . One of the poachers breaches the surface, but the starship is already gone.

Aboard the Protostar

Inside the Protostar , the whale opens its mouth and releases the submersible. The watercraft’s slide is halted by Rok-Tahk ( Rylee Alazraqui ). Hologram Janeway ( Kate Mulgrew ) notes that the away team almost broke the Prime Directive.

Zero asks Gwyn what distracted her. She reveals the memory of her father stating, “It’s a weapon.” After expressing their fear that they are a weapon, Zero says they will not rest until all of Gwyn’s memories return. Rok-Tahk ascertains that the whale is pregnant.

The whale is beamed down beside another whale, the Protostar leaves the planet and heads off into space.

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Captain’s Log, Stardate 61209.5. It’s been weeks since the rescue at Tars Lamora. He recounts that Gwyn’s memories of the event are a blur due to a glimpse of Zero’s unsheathed form. Since then, the Protostar crew has been racking up good deeds. They hope this will help them overlook the fact that they stole the ship .

Such circumstances weigh on Dal’s mind as the Protostar approaches Comm Relay station CR-721, furthest outpost for the Federation. 

Dal says that even he’s close to believing the dream that they’ve found someplace where they all belong. Meanwhile, Hologram Janeway helps him adjust his uniform. Dal worries they’ll see right through him. Hologram Janeway says to let them: that’s how you show them who you really are. It’s a leap of faith.

Dal embraces Hologram Janeway.

The Protostar extends its deep space transport tube (see also:  Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 1 episode 4, “ Memento Mori ”). Including Murf ( Dee Bradley Baker ), the Protostar crew enter the tube and cross to CR-721.

Space tube!

Inside the station, the lights activate, revealing an entryway with Federation flags and a room full of computers. At first the Protostar crew wonders where all the people are. Then a man appears and runs down the stairs to greet them. The man offers his apologies and says that he usually gets a warning when Starfleet is going to visit him “way out here.”

He introduces himself as Lt. Jr. Grade Barniss Frex (Eric Bauza) and welcomes them to CR-721. Frex says it’s the furthest communications outpost in “the final frontier,” expecting a laugh that doesn’t come. Gwyn says there’s something they need to tell him. Frex worries he’s being sent somewhere worse, like the Gamma Quadrant or Nimbus III.

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Dal reveals that they aren’t Starfleet. The crew explains that they “borrowed” the ship to escape imprisonment. In addition to the good deeds they’ve accomplished in the meantime, they’re here to return the Protostar and seek assignment in Starfleet.

Frex says they’re throwing quite a bit at him. However, he says it sounds like they’ve come to the right place. Starfleet welcomes all kinds. They’ll start with a biometric scan, to be recorded for the database.

Biometric Revelations

Frex says they just need a DNA scan for entrance paperwork. Jankom hops into the scanner. Frex confirms he is a Tellarite and notes that the species was a founding member of the Federation. Naturally, Pog takes this as confirmation that he’s royalty.

The next to be scanned in Rok-Tahk. Frex confirms she’s Brikar and asks if she wants to be a “rock star.” Rok-Tahk says she wants to be a scientist, but she’s only now learning that there’s more than one field of study so she can’t yet say which she prefers.

Gwyn is confident Frex won’t find her species in his system. While Frex doubts her, she’s correct: “unregistered species.” However, because he’d “rather not do the paperwork,” he says he’ll simply list her as “none of the above.”

Next, he identifies Murf as a “melanoid slime worm.” Zero introduces themself as a Medusan. Frex is unimpressed with their “madness warning.” Finally comes Dal, who is skeptical the machine will be able to identify him. However, while the scanner does score a hit, the only information it displays is a message: “report to Starfleet Command.”

Frex says it sounds important and suggests they report for answers. Dal is awed by the fact that Starfleet apparently has answers about his identity.  Since it sounds like they all need time to process, Frex suggests they take advantage of the fully automated comm station’s amenities while he finishes checking them in.

Christening

A holodeck simulation is being run by Vice Admiral Janeway (Mulgrew) aboard the USS Dauntless . It returns us to the christening of the Protostar . Captain Chakotay ( Robert Beltran ) watches as a bottle of Chateau Picard wine breaks against the starship’s hull. The Starfleet officers present applaud. 

Janeway approaches Chakotay and they greet each other and embrace. She asks if he’s really going back to the Delta Quadrant after everything they’ve been through. Chakotay says the Protostar will get him home in a fraction of the time this go-round. Plus, he’ll have her hologram to advise him. Janeway says that was the only way Starfleet would get her back out there.

How many Janeways?

Present-day Janeway freezes the program and walks through this hologram version of herself. She asks the Chakotay hologram what he found.

The simulation is interrupted by Commander Tysess ( Daveed Diggs ). Ensign Asencia ( Jameela Jamil ) has tracked the Protostar ’s warp signature to a planet in the Carina Nebula. Janeway says it’s good news, and for Asencia to set a course. Before leaving the holodeck, she tells Chakotay that if he’s out there, she’ll find him.

Hot Dog King

On CR-721, Rok-Tahk urges Murf to look at a hologram display of the 196 branches of science on record in the Starfleet computer. The computer asks if Rok-Tahk wishes to access one in particular. Rok-Tahk says she has her work cut out for her.

Meanwhile, Zero and Gwyn enter the ship’s sick bay. Zero says they’re confident that a quick and easy procedure will help unlock her memories. They say that the space station’s sick bay is far superior to the one on the Protostar , and assures her the procedure won’t hurt. 

Gwyn says that she’s been afraid to ask what happened to her father. All Zero will say is he cannot hurt her any more. Gwyn says she wants to remember and gets in the machine.

In the cafeteria, Pog asserts that the “Earf” food known as “hot dogs” are “fit for king.” As he devours the meat, he claims Tellarites have sway.

Meanwhile, Frex downloads the Protostar ’s logs to ensure “everything checks out.” Onboard the Protostar , in a room beneath the ship’s bridge, a glowing red device activates. In voiceover, we hear The Diviner state, “It is a weapon.”

Gwyn remembers The Diviner.

Back on CR-721, the screens begin to display sinister red code. A klaxon sounds as red lights activate all over the station. Even the replicator begins malfunctioning. When Zero realizes systems aren’t responding, they attempt to investigate. Unfortunately, they are now locked out. They call everyone to sick bay.

Elsewhere, the station’s defensive phasers activate and turn towards the station itself. Explosions rock CR-721 as it begins to self-destruct. Amid the destruction, Gwyn regains her memories of her father, and the true nature of the device aboard the Protostar .

Escape from CR-721

While the procedure was successful, Gwyn is now trapped. The rest of the  crew arrives. Rok forces the sick bay doors open and everyone attempts to free Gwyn. However, her heirloom that ultimately releases her.

Dal is relieved, but the disaster continues. Hologram Janeway contacts them and asks what’s happening on CR-721. They don’t know, but they need to get back to the ship.

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But then they’re confronted by Frex. He asks what they’ve done to his station. The Protostar crew disavows responsibility, but Frex says everything was fine until they arrived. Meanwhile, the Protostar withdraws the tube and begins pulling away. 

Gwyn asks for emergency transport but Hologram Janeway says the transport emitter has been damaged. Beaming is offline. She instructs them to locate an escape pod. Frex makes a “tactical retreat.” He enters the station’s sole pod and closes the door in the Protostar crew’s face. “No room for saboteurs,” he says before activating the pod.

Dal sees space suit. He says they’ll need to take “a leap of faith.”

No One Can Hear You Scream

The space suited-up Protostar crew activate a lift. They arrive on the exterior of the exploding station. In the distance, the Protostar circles. After fleeing to the furthest point, Dal asks Rok what they do next. She’s the science officer, she needs to science it!

Rok begins considering the variables, including the differing orbital velocities of the Protostar compared with CR-721 and the lack of air resistance in space. The crew tells Rok they’ll follow her lead. We see some of the mathematical equations floating around her head.

Rok has some doubts, but the explosions mean they just need to jump. At first it seems like they’ll make it. However, they are propelled past the ship. Fortunately, Hologram Janeway activates the ship’s tractor beam and pulls them in.

(Tractor) beam me up!

Rok says the math needed to be precise. Dal says it was close enough. Still, Rok suspects orbital mechanics won’t be her forte. Hologram Janeway wonders what could cause a Federation station to tear itself apart. This causes Gwyn to have another flashback to The Diviner’s statements in the midseason finale.

The rest of the Protostar crew call Gwyn back from her panic attack. She says she remembers everything.

Ruins of Tars Lamora

Elsewhere, the Dauntless arrives at Tars Lamora. Vice Admiral Janeway, Tysess, Asencia, and Doctor Noum ( Jason Alexander ) beam into the ruins. 

Janeway wonders what the Protostar could be doing here. Noum detects faint signs of life. Tysess notes gravity is spotted and states that this place saw battle. Janeway locates the broken pieces of Gwyn’s Starfleet comm badge.

Tysess calls Janeway’s attention to a figure floating in a beam. He says he’s in some kind of status. Asencia wonders who it is. Janeway says that whoever he is, he’s alive, and will hopefully have answers. The figure turns and is revealed to be The Diviner.

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Star Trek Prodigy Ep 11: Asylum [RECAP/REVIEW]

Posted by The Tom C. | Oct 27, 2022 | Animated Shows/Movies , Paramount+ , Reviews , Star Trek , TV News | 0 |

After many long stardates, approximately 8 months, the Paramount+ and Nickelodeon smash hit Star Trek Prodigy returns! Don’t call it a new season; this is the second half of the first season. So, the story picks up right where we left off!

Prodigy Ep. 11 kicks off with wishy-washy remembering

While the “crew” are racking up their “good guy points,” they find themselves on an aquatic planet in a new-to-TV Starfleet submersible. While trying to help rehome a glorious whale creature from poachers, Gwynn has another flash of a past memory. Holo-Janeway swoops down and uses an emergency transport to beam the pregnant whale and relocate her to find her pod.

Would this be First Contact or reintroductions?

The crew makes it out to CR-721 the furthest coms relay in the Federation. We meet a LTJG who keeps making the obvious Final Frontier joke, that falls on deaf ears. The kids explain that they “borrowed” the Protostar and want to join Starfleet. The LT goes to give bio scans to the kids. Telling Jankom that his people were one of the first to join the Federation, this goes to Jankom’s head. Rok, Zero, and Murph are all identified easily. Gwynn comes up as unknown and when Daal gets his chance to find out where he’s from… red flags go off that his species is on file ONLY at Starfleet HQ. He suggests everyone enjoys the hospitality and amenities of the base. Pointing Rok down a rabbit hole of all the different types of science she could learn in the process.

Zero suggests that Gwynn uses the base’s sick bay to help heal her fractured mind, where he vows to help his friend. During the whole handshake process, the LT links up with the Protostar to download the ship’s logs. All hell breaks loose! Systems start failing, and Gwynn is trapped in the med table about to drown. The base’s phasers turn on the star base. It’s a Murphy’s Law situation.

The cowardly LT abandons the ship and the kids are stranded on the failing and falling apart starbase, with no way back to the Protostar, because the umbilical was made from a force field and has destabilized. This forces the kids to make an extremely dangerous space not jump but leap of faith! Rok over-calculates, but Holo-Janeway once again saves the day, this time with a tractor beam.

Before the jump Zero had to save Gwynn from the malfunctioning Medtable. Fortunately, unfortunate Gwynn has an episode and in her stress and near-death experience, her memories come rushing back. Now back on the ship she knows WHY everything went all WOLF 359. The Diviner kept referring to A WEAPON.

Oh, Captain my now Vice Admiral!

In a holodeck flashback, we see the christening of the Protostar with Captain Chakotay and Vice Admiral Janeway as they banter back and forth about being careful. Plus Vice Adm. Janeway in the holorecording hints that she’s happy right where she is and has little desire to go back out there.

She is interrupted by the XO, where the Protostar’s unique warp signature has been traced to Tars Lamora. Vice Adm. Janeway and her away team search the surface only to find The Diviner in stasis…

CAPTAIN’S LOG: Prodigy Ep. 11

What an excellent way to come back after the long break! I’m glad to see that we didn’t get a big time jump; instead, a few weeks is sufficient. The dynamic between Zero and Gwynn is really growing. With Rok having been stuck in the earlier time loop , the fact that she now has a buffet of scientific fields to choose from is like a kid in a candy store.

One thing I found odd was the LTJG’s collar pips. He’s wearing both standard pips and provisional pips. (Just struck me as odd. I’m a vet and we notice uniforms, intensely.) Plus the fact that Holo-Janeway now has control of the transporter system and the tractor beam on such a large scale? I’m thinking she’s starting to overcome her core programming like a certain EMH we know.

Also, get your pause game started or if you can, go frame by frame. I think that bottle we saw christen the ship was from Chateau Picard! It even has the stamp that you would see from the physical bottle from “2386.” Nice subtle nod.

This episode was a nice way to slide back into the season. A perfectly paced 20-some-minutes of pure Trek fun! So the only place to go from here is up!

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Paramount+ has released the Official Synopsis of Star Trek: Prodigy episode “ Asylum ” (1.11) that will be available on Thursday, October 27.

OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS

At the edge of Federation space, the crew applies for asylum at a comm relay outpost, only for their starship to reveal its shocking true purpose.

Written by Kevin & Dan Hageman and directed by Steve In Chang Ahn & Sung Shin.

In STAR TREK: PRODIGY , as the hopeful crew makes their way toward Starfleet, their dreams are threatened when they discover the U.S.S. Protostar harbors a weapon designed to tear the United Federation of Planets apart. To make matters worse, the U.S.S. Dauntless is on a manhunt for the Protostar as the real Vice Admiral Janeway is eager to uncover what happened to her missing former First Officer Chakotay. With these two ships on a collision course and destruction on the horizon, the fate of the Alpha Quadrant hangs in the balance.

STAR TREK: PRODIGY is from CBS’ Eye Animation Productions, CBS Studios’ animation arm; Nickelodeon Animation, led by president of animation Ramsey Naito; Secret Hideout; and Roddenberry Entertainment. Alex Kurtzman, Heather Kadin, Aaron Baiers, Katie Krentz, Rod Roddenberry and Trevor Roth serve as executive producers, alongside co-showrunners Kevin and Dan Hageman. Ben Hibon directs, executive produces and serves as the creative lead of the animated series. Aaron Waltke and Patrick Krebs also currently serve as co-executive producers.

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Episode 11 | asylum | a star trek prodigy review.

Brand new episode review – Steve and Toby share their thoughts on the glorious, animated entry to the Star Trek franchise: Star Trek: Prodigy

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At the edge of Federation space, the crew applies for asylum at a comm relay outpost, only for their starship to reveal its shocking true purpose.

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Star Trek icon Kate Mulgrew credits Star Trek: Prodigy 's devoted fans for saving the beloved animated series. When Paramount+ canceled Star Trek: Prodigy in June 2023 and purged all 20 season 1 episodes from its streaming service just 3 days later, irate fans organized to find Prodigy a new home. The #SaveStarTrekProdigy initiative was a resounding success, as Netflix acquired the rights to Star Trek: Prodigy seasons 1 and 2, with the option for season 3.

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Recap/Review: ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Reflects On Its Choices In “Mirrors”

| April 25, 2024 | By: Anthony Pascale 109 comments so far

Star Trek: Discovery Season 5, Episode 5 – Debuted Thursday, April 25, 2024 Written by Johanna Lee & Carlos Cisco Directed by Jen McGowan

A solid episode with plenty of lore and character development gets weighed down with a bit too much exposition.

No, I didn’t kiss you in the past last week, what makes you say that?

WARNING: Spoilers below!

“Maybe we’re not so different.”

As the crew regroups following the time bug incident that lost them 6 hours, they try to trace the trail of their main rivals in the search for the Progenitor tech. Book takes this time to reflect on the choices he has made in life and how it isn’t too late for Moll; perhaps he can redeem the daughter of his mentor and namesake Cleveland Booker. Stamets and Tilly figure out the trail didn’t disappear into nowhere: Moll and L’ak went through a wormhole. The aperture isn’t big enough for the Disco, so the captain assigns herself to shuttle duty—over the objections of her new XO, who is still struggling a bit. After a little bonding over old Kellerun poetry, she leaves him with “I know you can lead this crew” and heads off with her ex. Returning to their old banter, including some teasing about what happened during her time tour last episode, Book and Michael head through the wormhole. Things get really choppy as they fly through exotic matter “deaf and blind,” losing comms with the Disco, and dodging debris. Skilled piloting and good ol’ Starfleet engineering saves them, but things aren’t so hot for Moll and L’ak, whose ship is spotted cut in half. Their only hope for survival is another relatively intact ship that looks familiar. A 24 th -century scientist hiding a clue in this pocket dimension on a shipwreck from another universe makes as much sense as anything.  It’s the ISS Enterprise—and that’s no typo. If the “Mirrors” title wasn’t clue enough, the ISS does it: Things are about to get Terran, again.

After docking, Michael and Book make their way through the mess of a ship to the bridge with more playful banter. The warp drive has been bricked and all shuttles and escape pods are gone, very out of character for ruthless Terrans. They track three quantum signatures in sickbay, but start with a trace in the transporter room, which looks more like a makeshift refugee camp. A chronicle reveals the crew mutinied after the Terran High Chancellor (aka Mirror Spock) was killed for making reforms. A certain Kelpien rebel leader (aka Mirror Action Saru) led refugees to the Prime Universe, where they abandoned ship. While Book expositions, Michael puts a piece of her badge (and its important Prime Universe quantum signature) in a locket she finds. Pay attention BTW, or you will be confused later. In sickbay, they find Moll and L’ak, Moll and L’ak, and Moll and L’ak—until they take out the holo-emitters so the four former couriers can face off for real. Book tries the “I knew your father” gambit and is immediately rebuffed by Moll’s serious daddy issues. The baddies figure they have the clue so they have all the leverage, but Michael uses that locket as a bluff, claiming she has the real clue. Still, no deal with the Federation is good enough because they need the Progenitor tech to get rid of an Erigah… a Breen blood bounty. That’s right, L’ak is Breen. Holy refrigeration helmet , Batman.

Mirror McCoy was a bit of an evil pack rat.

“You both still have choices .”

Cut to a series of Burn-era flashbacks when Moll was delivering dilithium to the Breen Imperium. The “bucket heads”  are not amused by the wisecracking courier who gets into a fight with one of them, but she turns the tables, revealing she knows he’s a disgraced member of the royal family—and she even knows his name. It’s L’ak, of course. He is intrigued by her plan to skim more latinum, getting payback for being humiliated for this cargo duty demotion. Soon enough, this unlikely pair is hooking up between cargo containers and he even takes off his helmet to show her his face, as well as his “other face.” It turns out the Breen have two: the one we have been seeing with L’ak and a glowing eyed translucent one.  Later, the star-crossed romance is threatened when Moll is drawn to the lure of even more latinum by delivering to the Emerald Chain. Before they can sort out if he should join her, Uncle A-hole shows up, not happy about his nephew’s little interspecies exchange program. He’s also not cool with L’ak using that old face and not the “evolved” glowy face. L’ak is given one chance at redemption: Kill Moll. He picks door number 2, killing some guards but sparing Primarch Ruhn, who declares the Erigah. L’ak knows this means they will never stop hunting him, but Moll is all-in on being a fugitive, so they escape together. Ah, true love.

Back on Mirror Enterprise, the standoff devolves into another quick firefight as the Breen/Human duo chooses not to take the offered off-ramp before going too far down the bad guy road. Moll and Book end up outside force fields that pop up around sickbay, so she reluctantly agrees to a ceasefire. The current Cleveland Booker tries again to connect, but Moll only has bad memories of a brutal childhood of abandonment after her Cleveland left her on her own at age 14. L’ak is all she has. L’ak feels the same about Moll, telling Michael that he would die before being separated, but seems open to the idea of them sharing a cell in the Federation pen. On the bridge, Book pivots to use his relationship with Michael to connect, but Moll’s need to get back to L’ak means no waiting for computer hacking, so she starts yanking out wires. The resulting short does lower the forcefield, but now the ship is out of control. Their shuttle is flung off with the jolt and there’s only eight minutes until the Big E is squished in the little wormhole. Book takes his final shot, handing over his phaser and telling Moll she is the only family he has left. She finally relents and they head to sickbay, where Michael and L’ak have resumed fighting. The captain gets the upper hand and ends up with the clue L’ak was holding and the Breen is left with a knife in his side, but impressed by the locket bluff. Moll arrives and is super pissed, so the Disco duo makes a quick exit before things escalate into yet another phaser fight. This former courier couple’s double date is over.

Uh, can you go back to the other face now?

“Maybe we can shape our own futures too.”

As Moll tries to patch up her boyfriend, Michael and Book work through the problem on the bridge, deciding that the tractor beam as their only hope. Over on the Disco, they detect an oscillating pattern, 3-4-1-4, which means something to Rayner. He now wants the nerds to figure out how to open the wormhole aperture big enough for a ship, offering kegs of Kellerun booze for the best idea. Adira sparks a team effort and Rayner rallies around the crowdsourced solution involving a hexagon of photon torpedoes. “We are only going to get one shot at this. I trust you will all make it count, red alert.” That’s the stuff. With what may be the last seconds of her life, Michael lets Book know she shared a “happy” moment with his past self during the whole time bug incident. Discovery fires the torpedoes and the crew is surprised to see the ISS Enterprise emerge at the last minute from the permanently collapsing wormhole. Everyone releases their tension as the captain informs her crew they saved her… but why is the Enterprise about to fire? A warp pod is launched! It’s Moll and L’ak. Before you can say “plot armor,” they escape to another episode. The captain returns to the Disco to tell Rayner she’s impressed with how he handled the crew during her time away, and he tells her how impressed he was with her subtle “3-4-1-4” message using the Kellerun “Ballad of Krull.” Alien poetry FTW!

In the background of the episode, Tilly has been noticing that Dr. Culber seems out of sorts. Everyone else leans on him, so she offers to be a friendly ear. As things wrap, Hugh takes her up on her offer over drinks at Red’s, admitting that ever since he was possessed by a Trill a few episodes back, he has been feeling a bit off, and he’s beening having some trouble coming to grips with the quest they are on with questions “so big and impossible to grasp.” He is not sure his matter-of-fact husband will understand what Tilly points out is a sort of spiritual awakening. This thread is left unresolved, unlike Adira’s mini-crisis of confidence: They were losing their science mojo due to guilt over the time bug, but got it back through Rayner’s tough love and being the one to come up with the hexagon of torpedoes solution. Things wrap up with Michael and Book looking over their prize, the latest piece of the map and a mysterious vial of liquid hidden inside, ready to set up the next episode once Stamets unlocks its secret. Burnham is starting to see a pattern with these clues and how the scientists who left them were trying to teach lessons along the way to the successful questers. The clue hidden in the ISS Enterprise came from Dr. Cho, a former Terran junior officer who later became a Starfleet Admiral. This happy ending for her and the others from Saru’s band of Mirror refugees fills them with hope as they can’t wait to find out what they will learn when they put the map together. There are just 2 more map pieces and 5 more episodes to go.

I think I have a thing for being possessed—no judgment.

Love stories

This halfway point episode is a bit of a mixed bag. Strong performances were a highlight, bringing extra life to welcome character development for both heroes and villains. But valiant attempts to expand upon franchise lore got weighed down in overly complicated exposition. And for an episode with a strong (and yes, often repeated) theme about choices, some of the directorial choices just didn’t work, potentially leaving some audience members confused or requiring a second viewing to follow the narrative. On the other hand, the episode carried on the season’s reflection on Discovery’s own lore and the evolution of its characters. David Ajala stands out as the episode MVP as he shows Book’s struggle to navigate the emotional complexities of his own choices and those of Moll while desperately trying to forge a new family connection. While some of the action scenes in this episode felt a bit perfunctory, the show is still getting better (for the most part) in finding moments for those character sidebars to talk about their emotional journeys and relationships. That was especially important in this episode, which took a closer look at how the events of the season are impacting some of the key romantic pairings of Book and Michael, Paul and Hugh, and Moll and L’ak.

Eve Harlow—and especially Elias Toufexis—stepped up to add layers and nuance to Moll and L’ak, with Discovery finally embracing how fleshing out adversaries and their motivations goes a long way towards making your plot hold together. The nicely drawn-out reflection of their love story with the rekindling one between Michael and Book adds another layer to the more obvious meaning behind the episode title “Mirrors.” Moll’s single-minded anger and L’ak’s desire for safety now all make sense, as does their unshakable bond. The episode also did a good job weaving in a handful of substories, including Rayner’s growing connection with the crew, with a nice sprinkling of Kellerun lore-building — adding some color to his character. Callum Keith Rennie continues to be a stand-out addition for the season, although Doug Jones is sorely missed, presumably not appearing in two episodes in a row for some scheduling reasons. Culber’s spiritual journey also gets just enough time, as it and these other substories all feel like they are heading somewhere without distracting or spinning their wheels, something that often weighed down mid-season Discovery episodes in past seasons.

Okay, let’s just agree we both have daddy issues.

Under the mask

The reveal that L’ak is a Breen was a surprise, but also nicely teased through the previous episodes. Fans of Deep Space Nine should relish finally getting some answers about this enigmatic race and finally having a first look under those helmets. “Mirrors” picked up on many elements from DS9, including the Breen language, refrigeration suits, neural truncheons, and the position of Thot , while adding lots to the lore, including some worldbuilding behind this new Breen Imperium and its “faction wars.”

Setting the Breen up as what appears to be the real big bads for the season involved a lot of data dump exposition here, surely keeping the editors of Memory Alpha busy for the next week. The notion that Breen have two forms with their signature suits and helmets allowing them to hold the more “evolved” form and face makes sense. If one were to get nitpicky, the Breen aren’t supposed to bleed, but perhaps that was a function of his suit; fill in your own headcanon. L’ak’s desire to hold the other, less evolved form making him a pariah in Breen society has echoes of allegorical episodes such as TNG’s “The Outcast.” That being said, the nuances are still not entirely clear, and fans who like the lore shouldn’t have to rewatch scenes to pick up the details. It feels like some details were cut, perhaps because this episode was already trying to cram in too much exposition with the Breen, Kelleruns (they boil cakes?), and the Mirror Universe.

Like the previous time travel adventure, this was a mid-season bottle show, this time using the conveniently located Strange New Worlds sets. Bringing back the ISS Enterprise was clever and fun, with the twist of how this time the Mirror Universe came to us. If you follow closely, “Mirrors” did a nice job of filling in some lore gaps and tying together the MU storylines from the first visit in “Mirror, Mirror” to follow-ups in Deep Space Nine , Enterprise , and Discovery . There is now a nice throughline from Emperor Georgiou saving Mirror Saru through to Mirror Spock, killed for the reforms he instituted after being inspired by Kirk. However, the redress of the Enterprise sets was not very inspired, with only a smattering of Terran wall sconces and some repainting, instead of demonstrating the brutality of the Empire with elements like agony booths. But what was even more missed was the promise of any character crossovers. There was a lot of talk about Mirror characters like Spock, Saru, Dr. Cho, and others, but we don’t get to see any, one of the many examples of how this episode broke the golden rule to show not tell. There were plenty of opportunities for a flashback or holo recording. Burnham longingly gazing at her brother’s science station is no substitute for Ethan Peck with a goatee.

We’re back!

Final thoughts

“Mirrors” is a decent episode, but it could have been much better with a few tweaks here and there. While not falling into the pointless plate-spinning trap of past mid-season Disco outings, it still dragged a bit for something so jam-packed with lore and revelations. Still, it provided a nice hour of entertainment, and possibly more with rewatches to catch up on the little details. The episode also continues the season’s welcome trend of weaving in the show’s own past, which makes it work better as a final season, even if they didn’t know that when they crafted it. Season 5 hits the halfway mark, and it’s still the best season yet, and hopefully the second half of the season will nail the landing.

Wait, we’re in this episode too? Anyone remember their lines?

• Like the previous episode, “Mirrors” began with a warning for flashing images.
• The episode is dedicated “to the loving memory of our friend Allan ‘Red’ Marceta ,” the lead set dresser who died in a motorcycle accident in 2022.  Presumably the USS Discovery bar “Red’s” was named in his honor.
• This is the first episode where Book’s personal log starts it off.
• Stardate: 866280.9
• Booker examined wanted notices for Moll from the Federation, Orion/Emerald Chain (who have a new logo), and the Andorian Empire.
• Tilly was able to reveal the wormhole by compensating for the “Lorentzian Coefficient,” referencing the real Lorentz Factor used in special relativity equations.
• A new ensign on the Discovery keeps a Cardassian vole as a pet.
• The ISS Enterprise was built at Tartarus Base, possibly referencing Tartarus Prime , from the TOS novel The Rings of Time .
• Moll refers to Breens as “bucketheads” (just as Reno did to Emerald Chain Regulators last episode). This could be a nod to the use of “ bucketheads ” in Star Wars as a derogatory term for stormtroopers.
• Moll’s mother died on Callor V in a mine for Rubindium , a substance first mentioned in TOS “Patterns of Force.”
• Linus can play the piano.
• Breen Primarchs may be a nod to the genetically engineered Primarchs from Warhammer 40,000 .
• How does Book know that Pike’s catchphrase is “Hit it”?
• This is the third (of five) season 5 episodes in which Oyin Oladejo and Emily Coutts do not appear, but their characters, Detmer and Owosekun, are mentioned when they get the honor of escorting the ISS Enterprise back to Starfleet HQ.
• Even though we didn’t see it warp away, presumably the missing intermix chamber was replaced, otherwise Owo and Detmer’s trip is going to take a very long time.
• Tilly says her long day makes her feel like she has been through a Gormangander’s digestive tract.

Remember when Mudd hid inside a Gormagander? Gross.

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waste of ISS Enterprise

While I enjoyed the episode overall, the ISS Enterprise was a huge letdown and not even worth being an easter egg with what little they did with it. They should have just made it a generic constitution class ship from the mirror universe.

It felt like it was nothing more than a budget saver. Use existing sets from the other show. Which is weird because one of the arguments in favor of mini seasons is it allows more money to be spent.

That’s exactly what it felt like. Along with the missing, yet again, Detmer and Owosekun.

There must have been some deep budget cuts for the season.

Detmer and Owosekun were replaced by other characters so I don’t think they are missing for budget reasons. It’s more likely that the actresses were unavailable.

I get the budget issues considering what’s going on with the studio. But the end result was it showed that there isn’t much difference at all in the 900 years between the SNW Enterprise and the aesthetic of Star Trek Discovery. They both look as if they were set in the exact same era.

And there really shouldn’t be much. Discovery is from the same era, as the Enterprise. While the ship gets a technological upgrade, why would it get an interior design makeover?

Since it was deemed important (Stamets certainly makes since) that the crew stay on the Discovery, I would certainly think that psychologically having its design aesthetics stay similar to what it was would help give the crew a little bit of their past to hold on to, versus having all physical interactions be with a timeline that they aren’t native to.

Now where we should see it is in native places in this time. And we have seen some differences in design from standard Starfleet settings, versus Starfleet settings on this time (I actually wish we got more).

I did wish for a little more of self reflection from Burnham’s point of view as the ISS Enterprise should of course remind her of Spock (the Enterprise tie in), but also Georgiou (the ISS tie in). We get a small brief nod to Spock, but nothing to Georgiou (and while I still question the use of the character, there is no question that Burnham did have a connection with her, even if its primarily transference from her former Captain, not the mirror Universe Empress.

That’s always been my issue with Discovery.

Agreed. The last two episodes just felt very budgeted and basically bottle episodes. And this just felt like a twofer, a way to use an existing set and add a little fan service but that’s all it was. I thought the Enterprise itself was going to be a viral part of not just the episode but the story overall.

Instead it was just a backdrop. And yeah it’s obvious they cut the budget for this season but all the live action shows have felt this way starting with Picard season 3 and SNW season 2. That all felt pretty bare a lot of the times. I guess this was all during Paramount+ belt tightening and probably not a shock why the show was cancelled.

And maybe the I.S.S. Enterprise should have been the refit or maybe the Phase II Enterprise? That would have been a lot of fun but combine a lack of vision with a reduced budget and this is what you get.

Looking back on “In a Mirror: Darkly”, season 4 of Enterprise was dealing with a reduced budget but managed to recreate sets from TOS, introduced a few new set pieces and did a lot of great effects work.

This was a missed opportunity.

Which was added by stretching that story over two episodes, so that they had the budget to recreate the sets they used. Having half the episode count, doesn’t really help avail yourself to planning out a two parter for a way to save costs.

If Picard could pull off recreating the bridge of the Enterprise D for three days of shooting with barely half the budget of Discovery season 5, they could have done something equally as fun for Discovery on the cheap without actually having to building anything new and using the Enterprise as a crutch. They could have come across Deep Space Station K-7, where the exterior would have been immediately familiar and with interiors served by redressed sets from virtually anything available from Discovery or SNW.

I thought Discovery is basically the PII Enterprise?

The Phase II Enterprise looks like a slickly modified version of the Enterprise from TOS, falling squarely between the Enterprise from TOS and the refit. The “Star Trek: Phase II” fan series did a great job bringing it to screen.

No, Discovery resembles the Enterprise concept for the Planet of the Titans movie.

I don’t get that. I never assumed that the Enterprise (or its mIrror Universe history) was going to feature in significant manner (certainly the producers and promotional department didn’t make a significant deal about it). Perhaps it’s the time difference. But I literally assumed it would be as significant as the Defiant going in and out of phase like TOS “Tholian Web” the time difference. And that was primarily set dressing. That’s not a bad thing. I mean Tholian Web is considered one of the better third season episodes.

And the only reason I assumed it was the Enterprise versus another Connie, is simple to give Burnham a moment to reflect on Spock. Now I do freely admit that I wish this was a slightly larger moment. But I never expected it to be anything but a small moment. Roughly my preconceived notion would be something like Spock’s Mind Meld scene with La’an in SNW where she is able to get a peak into Spock thinking about his sister and the emotion that comes with it. It’s a very brief scene, but I thought SNW did a good job in conveying the emotional aspect, especially from a half Vulcan/ Half Human.

Ok fair enough. This is probably more my hang up and to be fair since they never really promoted the the Enterprise being back then clearly they weren’t trying to make it that big of a deal.

But same time a lot of people do feel there could’ve been more done. The main problem is it just feels like a ridiculous stretch this ship itself is even there. It’s a ship from 900 years ago from a DIFFERENT UNIVERSE that conveniently happens to be the ship that gives them their next clue. I know it’s Star Trek so whatever lol. But when you go through the effort to present it I think it would’ve nice to build a bigger story around it. It could’ve just been any ship.

When you feel like the Mirror Universe has been nothing but a let down after the initial TOS episode, It’s really not a surprise. There’s really nowhere to go with it, but I did find that the fulfilling of the promise that Prime Kirk spoke to Mirror Spock about from the original TOS episode quite satisfying. The ship’s inhabitants embraced the benevolence of the prime universe, and I thought that was great.

I felt the idea that the MU people just easily adapted was pretty ridiculous. But then, they admitted SNW was an alternate timeline. It’s not a stretch that alternate extends to all the Secret Hideout productions.

I’m not sure I would feel the same about Picard given it depicts the Prime events of ST:2009. The others tho yeah I think of it that way too. Although The Chase does make that harder to swallow about DISCO

I liked the MU in DS9. It was fun to revisit and a great reminder of the Prime Directive. But… after that it got tiresome.

It was pretty benign there, but the problem with it, is finding it plausible. It was a fun idea in the 1960’s, and it had a good message. After that, it an indulgence. The notion that that the same people would even exist in the same fundamental places, and that the same ships would exist with virtually the same crew just seems like too much of a stretch even for modern Star Trek.

That’s my only complaint about this episode. Seeing the tantalus field show up would have been really cool. When Michael talked about how she was sure that Mirror Spock was a savage just like the other Terrans, I was sure that we would see a recording or something of Ethan Peck in a goatee to prove her wrong. Or flashbacks with Ethan Peck and Paul Wesley as their mirror counterparts would have also been cool.

All the stuff with the Breen and Mol and Lak was really cool though.

“ waste of ISS Enterprise” should be the official episode description.

waste of series

They ate Mirror Saru in season one…

Was that Saru or another Kelpian? It’s been a while since I watched Season 1, but I recall Mirror Saru saving Burnham from Tyler just as Voq’s personality re-emerged. I know Mirror Georgiou served Burnham some Kelpian, I just didn’t remember it being Mirror Saru.

Mirror Saru saved Michael from Tyler in The Wolf Inside, which was the episode that preceded the one in which they ate the food made from a Kelpien (Vaulting Ambition).

Looking at Memory Alpha now, it says that the chosen Kelpien ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVQSipQlJR8 ) was played by someone other than Doug Jones, but they look so much alike that I thought for sure she had chosen Mirror Saru.

As per Memory Alpha, we never saw him again after The Wolf Inside until season three, but that was in the alternate timeline Carl sent Georgiu to, so it wasn’t the same Mirror Saru.

Nope, that was another Kelpien.

“They ate Mirror Saru in season one…”

They didn’t.

Wasn’t Mirror Saru established as having survived in Season 3 (can’t remember the episode name).

A s per Memory Alpha, we never saw Mirror Saru again after The Wolf Inside until season three, but that was in the alternate timeline Carl sent Georgiu to, so it wasn’t the same Mirror Saru.

Loved this episode. I liked seeing the I.S.S Enterprise though i would of loved to of seen maybe a video log of Mirror Spock.

As a big fan of DS9 I’m glad we finally get to see what a breen looks like and the 32nd century breen outfits look great.

I enjoyed seeing Book/Burnham trying to get through to Moll/L’ak and i hope they can eventually get through to them. With this season about connections and 2nd chances i can see Book and Burnham talking both of them down before they do something that they can’t come back from.

The shot of the I.S.S Enterprise coming out of the ‘wormhole’ is probably one of my favorite CGI scene in all of Trek.

I’m glad they didn’t. I think the conceit of using the I.S.S. Enterprise was not much more than a budgetary decision to be able to use the sets. Could have made it a different constitution class, but then they don’t get to tell the story of the crew’s transformation into our society. Just don’t think about it too much.. because that universe is just pushing out its own doppelgängers into our universe.. which seems problematic. lol.

As a big fan of DS9 I’m glad we finally get to see what a breen looks like and the 32nd century breen outfits look great.

Any kind of big reveal was bound to be disappointing, I suppose. Still, the idea that they were just another latex alien was a letdown. I had always hoped that the Breen were gaseous or plasma creatures.

Ethan Peck with a goatee would have been EPIC

“This is the way.” 😉

But seriously that was a pretty good episode. I’d like to see a 31st century restored Terran empire that never went through “the burn.”

“ The reveal that L’ak is a Breen was a surprise ”

It really wasn’t, though. That was many viewers’ guess since the beginning of the season, and it’s been a common discussion on many websites. The surprise would have been if he HADN’T been a Breen.

I am on a lot of other sites and I haven’t heard anyone thinking he was Breen. And I don’t believe anyone voiced that in Trekmovie either.

LOL. It’s been a common theory.

Obviously not THAT common. LOL

I’ve seen the theory mentioned in the comments here on TrekMovie.

Yes, quite common from what I’ve been reading. I just commented on this very site a couple weeks back that I liked the idea, when somebody else theorized it (forget who it was)!

I guess it’s just where you go for these discussions but yeah the first YouTube review of episode one I saw theorized Lak was a Breen in the first scene he was in when he took off his helmet. And this was obviously before the species was mentioned on the show.

So yeah some people caught on the first episode the way others theorized Tyler was Voq the first time he showed up. Others needed more convincing.

I never saw it but I certainly don’t read the majority of comments. And almost never watch video reviews. Now Voq, was something I remember seeing in many places. Though in fairness, the amount of conjecture done about any Trek series for its Pilot and early couple episodes has been in my experience far more than what you see for most regular episodes. So that shouldn’t;t surprise me.

It was a surprise to me.

The Breen being so ordinary looking was a bit of a surprise.

Well, one of their forms are. It explains the frozen wasteland/tropical paradise. Their “evovled” form needs cryo suits, their “normal form” doesn’t

Was a surprise to me. Then again, I don’t run around the internet and over analyze the show.

This season started out so well. What happened? It’s falling apart.

I hate to a agree. But its once again a long slow burn (pardon the bun) that I fear is going to lead to another whimper of a conclusion. I feel like the season could have been a movie instead. Where is Chapel?!

Wrong show. Chapel is on SNW. The ending was rewritten and new scenes were shot to make it a series finale. They had already started shooting when they got the word that it was ending after season 5.

presumably on Her show, SNW?

“pardon the bun” …🍔⁉️

What’d that poor bun do for it to be in need of a pardon? 😋

This is what happens in every single season of Discovery. Two lovers who want to destroy the galaxy so they can get to paradise was the plot of season four, and now they are recycling the exact same plot for this season.

Did you watch the show. In no seasons has two lovers wanted to destroy the galaxy….Period. L’ak and Moll want to pay off their bounty. Nothing about what they are doing is about wanting to destroy the galaxy.

Outside of the destruction caused by the aliens referred to as 10-C, did any character want to destroy the galaxy let alone a couple. The only couple we had, was one person wanting peaceful means of communication to prevent destruction, while the other wanted to use force to ensure the destruction doesn’t occur. In no case does that equal people wanting to destroy a galaxy.

I can understand not liking the show, but to have such a misconstrued concept of the plot of the seasons shows a shocking lack of basic understanding of what the plot and motivations of the characters are.

I mean the show has plenty that one can find legitimate issues with. Thats not one of them.

They want to pay their bounty by giving a weapon of potential mass destruction to the Breen, thus destroying the galaxy, as seen in the time jumps last episode. They want to do that so they can escape to the Gamma Quadrant while the Breen take apart the Alpha Quadrant.

Last season the scientist wanted to let the 10-C species bulldoze the Alpha Quadrant so he could get across the galactic barrier to meet his lover in paradise, without caring what happened to trillions of other lives.

It is the same basic plot point. Your analysis is incorrect, Wood.

I think you’re overreacting a little. As always.

This episode was disappointing and fell flat. The return of the ISS Enterprise from the mirror universe was of no interest. I had hoped to possibility see a video log from Kirk, Spock, or another familiar character. Why not explore other Constitution Class Starships like the ISS Lexington, Hood, or Potemkin? Enterprise, Enterprise, Enterprise. (Sigh)

Maybe cause the enterprise is the trek ship pretty much everyone knows even if they are a new trek fan or a casual trek fan or not even a trek fan it is so engrained and intertwined with the name Star Trek that is why they chose to make it the iss enterprise instead of one of the others you mentioned

Because exploring a random ship isn’t the plot of the episode. It’s basically set dressing. Having it be the Enterprise versus a different Connie, gives it a tie to the lead character and part of her family she left behind. That it sorry wise. Another ship wouldn’t have any emotion aspect to the characters. Now production wise its to save a ton of money, as creating a random ship with multiple settings to take use of takes money (if your trying to give it the same level of production that you see for the primary ship). Now of course they could have just created a redress of an existing set to be random alien ship of the week. Those usually aren’t done to the same level of using the existing bridge set of another show. So it serves a small story purpose (ie a setting), it serves a small character purpose *reflection for Burnham, and it serves a production purpose (having high quality set pieces without having to build or do a serious redress and thus saving some money).

Seems rather obvious, to me.

I’m annoyed by what they seem to be doing with Owosekun and Detmer this season. I assume that the actors are absent because Paramount wanted to pay them less, and that’s poor treatment for characters who have been around since practically the beginning of the series.

“ I’m annoyed by what they seem to be doing with Owosekun and Detmer this season. ”

…as opposed to the previous four seasons, when all they did was sit in chairs and look meaningfully at each other?

Which is all Sulu and Chekov do in the average TOS episode. So yes, it’s aggravating for them to be replaced by other actors who are doing the same thing.

I doubt they are paid exorbitantly as recurring guests. It could be similar to what happened in season 4 and Bryce Ronnie Rowe Jr’s absences – he had another gig.

I have a theory that before it was decided that Disco would be cancelled, they were going to replace some of the characters. I think Owosekun and Detmer were going to be replaced, and also that Rayner would become captain and Burnham would go away to do something else. But then that didn’t work out, and so to us it just makes no sense why those two main characters are suddenly missing.

You might be right — I hadn’t considered that revamps due to cancellation might be involved.

Well… It is what it is . This was easily the worst episode of the 5. Tropes galore and really bad plot contrivances.

It feels like the reshoots for when they got the cancelation news are getting dropped in throughout the season. A lot of scenes appear grossly out of place. It feels like they just aren’t even trying anymore to be honest. As flawed as the show has been one thing that never came across among the other problems was a lack of trying.

I am loving the addition of Rayner and the professional Starfleet officer energy he is bringing to the ship. I also liked when he told Burnham the mission was too dangerous for the captain to go on. He is turning out to be a nice counterbalance to the unusual way Discovery has been run as a Starfleet ship after season 2.

I hope he doesn’t get killed off.

Sorry but this was another big fat ‘meh’ for me. This was very very disappointing. Nothing of consequence happened. We learn Mol and Lak backstory basically and it is cool we learn that Lak is a Breen which has been the leading theory since he showed up but it just felt sooo bare overall. Like another Discovery infamous spinning wheel episode where they do the bare minimum to move the plot along but just through a lot of action scenes and inconsequential dialogue to feel like we were getting any real development.

And the biggest elephant in the room (or dimensional wormhole) was the ISS Enterprise. Such a let down. It almost felt like a gimmick or just shoehorned fan service. There was no real reason it needed to be there other than HEY THE ENTERPRISE IS BACK!

Again one of the problems with this show, no real development just there for another connection. Think about what they did with In a Mirror Darkly on Enterprise. They brought in the Defiant as obvious fan service from TOS but the ship had a very vital part to the story. It helped changed the dynamics of the MU. It wasn’t there just for show like this was. And Anthony made a great point the redress felt like a joke. It just felt like an excuse to use the set but little else.

Here it was nothing more than just a backdrop and a really forced one at that. And the whole Saru thing just felt very contrived.

I did like all the Breen stuff though and hopefully they will be the big bad the rest of the season. I still think they should’ve used the Breen as the main villain for SNW instead of the Gorn but I digress.

But yeah this is probably the weakest one for me which is disappointing since last week is my favorite so far. I’m getting a little nervous now. It’s usually the second half of the season this show begins to falls apart but still open minded. Still enjoying it overall but please don’t end up a tedious bore like last season felt once it got to its mid season.

You have one last chance Discovery, make it count!

I never considered the Breen in SNW before, but that’s a cool idea. Yeah, I would’ve liked that much more than the Gorn.

For me it was literally the first Gorn episode I thought the Breen would’ve been a better idea. You get the same type of stories and it doesn’t feel like it’s breaking any canon like the Gorn obviously does. I ranted enough about it but nothing about their appearance on SNW feels remotely canon anymore.

But the Breen could’ve been a great substitute if they wanted a known species not named Klingons and zero canon issues.

Agreed. I always enjoyed the mysterious quality of the Breen. Seems ripe for exploration.

This season is largely working for me. Not as good as last week, but the chase is enjoyable. I have a little trouble buying that Mol and L’ak fell in love so fast. I would have liked to have seen that handled better.. but the slow burn of the plot works because of what they do to sustain individual episodes. Only episode I thought was kind of wasteful was the one on Trill.

That is a big part of the problem, yes. The characters have little chemistry.

The flashbacks took [place over an extended period of time, it wasnt THAT fast

They both felt like outcasts in their family/society, fusing them together like lightning. I had no problem with that as it gave me a Bonnie & Clyde-vibe which is historical.

It’s fine, but the romance piece just isn’t clicking for me.

Tarka was a similar situation last season with the reveal of his motivation not really moving me, but I’m also not the biggest fan of waiting several episodes to fill in a lot of backstory in a flashback. It’s not easy to pull off, and Discovery hasn’t really perfected it.

It’s a wonder I stuck with Lost as long as I did, now that I think about it.

“ it’s still the best season yet ”

Well, it was for the first two episodes, but the three since then have been a downward spiral. Seasons one and two were much better than this week’s episode and last week’s.

I’ve enjoyed it all except for the Trill episode. I think it’s been fun with a faster pace.. which has helped with a lot of issues that haven’t gone away. Raynor has been a very welcome addition to the cast.

Overall, very entertaining!

For complaints: any other constitution ship would be cool – but I also feel like we don’t know what happens next – there could be some Prime Mirror Universe people out there. & the “hit it!” joke felt like Dad was in the writer’s room.

Otherwise, I the pairings felt very TOS. Rayner is a little bit Serious Scotty when performing a captain’s role. And he took pride in rescuing her – which is feels good.

For me, this season has been 5/5.

Personal Log. Stardate: Today.

Week 4 of not-watching Discovery continues without incident. Opinions gleaned from critics on the latest episode seem to confirm that ‘mid-season malaise’ has been reached right on schedule.

Based on the collective opinion of commentators, there have been a grand total of one episode out of five that qualifies as “actually good”.

In conclusion, it appears the decision to not-watch until the penultimate episode has been vindicated. The plot points I am privy to following the one episode I watched are:

– There is a chase (or ‘The Chase 2.0’) for the Holy Grail / the technological marvel Salmone Jens left behind.

– The Cylon is now the First Officer.

– The Trill and the Robot are no longer together.

All in all, I remain confident that the recap at the beginning of the penultimate episode should be sufficient to fill in all the key points required.

Again, my thanks go out to the resolute souls who manage to endure what I could not.

these threads are for people to talk about the episodes they have seen. CLOSED.

Am I wrong or did the DS9 episode Through the Looking Glass make a reference to the Mirror Spock being on Romulus? Also given all the DS9 cross overs with the Mirror Universe you would think Burnham would have known something more about her brother’s counterpart.

Spock was not mentioned in Through the Looking Glass. We know between Crossover and the new dedication plaque of the ISS Enterprise that he reformed the Terran Empire and was killed for it. Burnham has clearly boned up on a lot of info since coming to this century, but easy to assume the future history of the mirror universe wasn’t part of that. Also, that info could have been lost or been classified.

Wow! The Breen. From CGI to burn victim.

Does anybody think the Commander Rainer is gonna become the Commandant of Starfleet Academy?

Everything involving Book is incredibly tedious. They brought back the ISS Enterprise as a way to resurrect the OG Enterprise in continuity. Perhaps it ends up as the Enterprise Q or whatever, if Saru is in command then ok. Burnham insisting on going on the away mission is diametrically opposed to how TNG dealt with this – e.g., when Riker as captain insisted on boarding the Borg cube in Best of Both Worlds, and his senior officers reminded him his place was on the bridge. I guess everyone got much dumber in the 32nd century, but “dumber” is Discovery’s whole concept.

This post missed an important Easter egg towards the end: Morn was at the bar “Red’s” just like he did on Quark’s on DS9.

We don’t call out or find every little egg, but when the bar was introduced last season we noted the Lurian (Morn’s species), who has been there ever since. We don’t usually do repeated easter egg bits for each episode

Yay! Good seeing the Breen again and their evolved design in the 32nd Century is great.

Boo! Pretty much everything else except Rayner who is the best character in the show.

Imagine they used the Star Trek: Tour set in Trekonderoga for the ISS Enterprise? What a cool surprise that would have been. But nope, we got the generic canon-breaking Discoprise. Not surprised.

I swear if they make the new Enterprise in the 3190s a refitted Constitution, I will facepalm. Just a stupid idea, when you have far superior tech and designs in the future time period. Please don’t, Disco-writers. Bad enough they did it with the Ent-G (one of my few criticisms of the great PIC S3).

Would it have been too much if Dr. Cho was instead Marlena Moreau? Just saying. Kind of like Dax in Jinaal… I feel like they are making all of these deep cuts, why not make them count a bit more to the overall lore, instead of just throwing the ISS Enterprise in with no good reason. Making these deep cuts actually count towards the overall lore might make the obvious (potential) budget cuts, set reuses, etc. be a bit more forgiving. Giving loved characters some finality that affect the course of this in our face galactic scale quest… might make it hit harder? Maybe I’m wrong, I’m sure someone here will think so lol

Overall the episode was okay. I do understand using the ISS Enterprise since this is supposed to be the final season of Discovery it was a nostalgia play and kind of wrap up the history of that ship in regards to the series. But overall it just seems kind of mashed together. Have to see how it ties in with the rest of the season.

I would say this episode along with the one before it were definitely the weakest of the season. They started out with a bang on the first few, and while I know that they tend to slow down in the middle of the season before ramping up the action for the final few, this episode dragged. There were also a few things with the Breen and the Enterprise that seemed a bit confusing:

– The Breen have 2 faces…great! Awesome twist to the species and fantastic to finally be able to see them after all the mystery around them in DS9. If the second face is supposed to be the more evolved one though, why do they need the masks and the suits? Can the more evolved face not breathe in a standard atmosphere? When L’ak and his uncle opened up their masks, they seemed fine, so there’s still quite a bit we don’t know about why they use that whole setup, especially when they’re around their own people

– Does the more evolved form extend past the face?

ISS Enterprise

– The stardate on the commemorative plaque is 32336.6. Popping that number into a couple of online stardate calculators puts that around mid-2355, which would be a few years before the prime universe Enterprise-D was commissioned in 2363. They mentioned that Dr. Cho came back to the Enterprise to hide the clue, so the assumption is that she also placed the plaque there at the same time. The timing doesn’t quite add up though because The Chase took place in 2369. Nobody would have known about The Progenitors or their technology before that, so they were at least 14 years off with the plaque

– If this Enterprise has been caught in extradimensional space since at least 2355, that means it’s been there for over 800 years by the time it’s discovered. How does it still have power?

– It’s been discussed by the Disco production team that the Discovery-era Enterprise was designed so that it could eventually be refit into the TOS Enterprise. The ISS Enterprise was contemporary with Kirk’s version and was seen on screen in TOS in that configuration. Why is the version in this episode the Discovery one? I know the real-world explanation is that it was easier to just re-use that model to align with the sets, but we saw a TOS-era Constitution class USS New Jersey at the Fleet Museum in Picard, so they had that model available to use. Just a bit sloppy

– How did Stamets immediately know that the ship exiting the wormhole was the ISS Enterprise and not a different prime Constitution class ship?

Photon Torpedo

– The solution to hold the wormhole open for the Enterprise to escape was to remove the payload from the torpedoes and replace them with antimatter. Photon torpedoes are matter/antimatter weapons, so this is a little confusing. Are they taking out the matter and just loading them with more antimatter?

I don’t know that it’s been there for 855 years.. not sure if it’s kind of like the Nexus or the black hole in Trek 09, where time does things differently. My guess is, that’s how the people on board were able to integrate into society. Their doppelgängers were long deceased.

Here’s the other thing… if the idea of revolution started with Mirror Spock, and the crew of the Enterprise more or less went along with him.. this is a way of explaining how they didn’t spread the idea to teh rest of the Empire.. they were lost in space and didn’t have much, if any, influence off of their own ship.

But they did spread the idea enough to weaken the empire to the point where it could be conquered.

Yeah I was wondering that also. It’s possible since it was extradimensional space that it didn’t put them in exactly the same time that they left. Also odd that they said Dr. Cho went BACK to the Enterprise to hide the clue. That’s a pretty risky trip unless the wormhole was more stable back in the 24th century.

It is strongly implied, if not explicitly stated, that the wormhole’s instability was caused by the Burn. So, it had to be more stable in the 24th century.

I feel like I’m seeing the same episode over and over, what a waste this series is became.

Great episode! This season has really been fantastic so far. The writing has been consistent, the acting of the principals is fantastic, and the pacing has been great.

I really loved the scenes with Rayner in command. That worked so well!

Loved getting the backstory about Moll and L’ak – it really did add layers to their characters and their story. And the reveal that L’ak was a Breen! I never saw that coming! Was great to know more about the most underdeveloped and mysterious alien race in Trek history.

Seeing the ISS Entreprise was a treat! I am guessing it was lost quite some time after mirror Spock took over from mirror Kirk. Nice Easter Egg… better than having some unknown ship in there.

Looking forward to the remaining episodes.

Did anyone else see “Morn” (or one of his species) sitting at the bar in Red’s?

Yes, I did catch that. It was a fun detail.

Seriously, an episode doesn’t go by without at least one eye roll over the touchy feely huggy share my feeling vibe that is shoe-horned into worst places. I wonder what this series would be like if Bryan Fuller had stayed on…

It would had been .. a Star Trek show, not this happy sad feeling sharing at all costs every single time somebody speaks.

I have a question because I’m really confused:

So discovery originally was set less than a decade before ToS. (And then they ended up far in the future)

The ISS enterprise is a reference to the ToS episode about the mirror universe. So that means the ISS enterprise is a contemporary with ToS and the USS enterprise, which means Dr Cho (who was expressly stated to be Terran) was about back in Kirk’s day.

However the progenitor technology and science in general was only discovered in TNG under Picard and i think it was expressly stated that the scientists that hid this research were originally asked to research it after the discovery by Picard in the first place.

TNG is set in the 24th century but ToS is set in the 23rd century – theirs about a hundred years between them.

So I’m trying to understand the timeline here because at the moment, from what I understand, it’s a human from the 23rd century somehow became a scientist on a study in the late 24th century and then stole the research and helped hide it with her 4 pals.

I thought for sure the Real Captain Lorca would be found in the transporters.

What a waste of an episode… filler and feelings…. Rinse and repeat

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Official description:

Captain Burnham and Book journey into extradimensional space in search of the next clue to the location of the Progenitors’ power. Meanwhile, Rayner navigates his first mission in command of the  U.S.S. Discovery , and Culber opens up to Tilly.

Star Trek: Discovery season 5 castmembers include Sonequa Martin-Green (Captain Michael Burnham), Doug Jones (Saru), Anthony Rapp (Paul Stamets), Mary Wiseman (Sylvia Tilly), Wilson Cruz (Dr. Hugh Culber), David Ajala (Cleveland “Book” Booker), Blu del Barrio (Adira) and Callum Keith Rennie (Rayner). Season five also features recurring guest stars Elias Toufexis (L’ak) and Eve Harlow (Moll).

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