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Tour AD DI Hybrid Shaft Review – Specs, Flex, Weight

The Tour AD DI Hybrid shaft boasts some of the same technologies as shafts produced by more well-known brands.

It has a lot to offer…for the right kind of player. Are you a good fit for this hybrid graphite/carbon fiber shaft?

Find out as I tell you about my experience testing the Tour AD DI.

Tour AD DI Shaft Overview

I have tested one or two Tour AD shafts in the past and the Tour AD DI Hybrid has the same visual effect as the others.

To put it frankly, the Tour AD DI Hybrid looks very busy. It has a metallic white/orange color scheme but it’s the labeling that really stands out.

The brand name, model name, flex and weight indications are all in different fonts which gives the shaft a rather hectic look.

But I loved the feel of this shaft so much that I was easily able to overlook its rather noisy look.

The Tour AD DI has a progressively stiff bend profile: it’s stiff in the tip, a bit lighter in the midsection and soft in the butt.

This creates a very smooth transition even when you really load up on it. I particularly loved the stiff tip section because it allowed for accuracy that you don’t often get in such an active shaft.

The Tour AD DI Hybrid comes in four weight classes: 75g, 85g, 95g and 105g.

The range of weights makes this shaft a good option for players of all skill levels. After all, who couldn’t benefit from superb smoothness and accuracy akin to much stiffer shafts?

Why is the Tour AD DI So Popular?

The Tour AD DI feels fast even if you don’t swing fast.

It feels fluid through transition and through the ball so you don’t waste a drop of swing speed energy.

And my numbers were the proof. During testing, my smash factor stayed between the 1.3 and 1.4 range.

So I would reckon that part of what makes this shaft so popular is its uncanny ability to transfer swing energy into the ball

How Does the Tour AD DI Hybrid Perform?

I tested the Tour AD DI Hybrid 85g in stiff flex.

The first thing I do when testing any shaft is bend it between both hands. Surprisingly, this gives me a good idea of how it’s going to perform.

The Tour AD DI Hybrid didn’t bend so easily under the force of my hands so I thought, at first, that it would play a bit stiff and boardy.

Well, it might be time to re-think my hand bend practice because it did not indicate the performance of this shaft.

The Tour AD DI Hybrid, even in stiff flex felt remarkably smooth but gave the accuracy of a stiff shaft.

I plugged the Tour AD DI into my 4-hybrid and my spin rates stayed in the 3500 and 400 RPM spin range. This allowed me to thread the needle on narrow fairways and deftly avoid hazards.

The torque was perfect for me but you can get less or more torque just by choosing a higher or lower weight class.

So we know that the Tour AD DI offers great club head speed (smash factor), keeps spin low and allows for straight flight.

Now let’s talk about distance. My average carry with the Tour AD DI was 164.5 yards. The rollout was pronounced due to the low spin so my average total distance was 180.9 yards.

Tour AD DI Hybrid Shaft Specs

What flexes are available what swing speeds do they suit.

Regular is a good flex for 70-80 MPH swingers.

Stiff is good for about 81-95 MPH swingers and extra stiff for 96-105 MPH swingers.

What Weights Are Available? What Swing Speeds Do They Suit?

The 75g and 85g weights should cover players in the 70-90 MPH swing speed range while the 95g and 105g weights would work for players in the 91-105 MPH swing speed range.

Why is it So Good?

The Tour AD DI Hybrid is a good shaft because it combines distance with accuracy.

It feels fluid and pliable which also helps when you need to finagle the shaft in order to dig the ball out of the rough.

Tour AD DI Hybrid First Impressions

At first, I thought the Tour AD DI would be too boardy in stiff flex.

But that was not the case at all. The Tour AD DI ended up being exceptionally fast without sending the ball spinning off-line.

Key Features & Performance

The Tour AD DI features a carbon/graphite design that allows for incredible stability in a lightweight package.

The tip has been stiffened to offer better club head control at impact as well.

Tour AD DI Hybrid Review

I tested this shaft with my 4H but I actually think it would work better in a 3H when you need that extra distance. It offers a nice, mid launch that can easily be worked a bit higher.

Tour AD DI Hybrid Pros & Cons

Great smash factor
Smooth transition
Offers straight flight
Great distance
Workable in the rough
Stopping power isn’t great
Busy graphics and lettering

Overall Score: 97/100

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Who Should Buy it?

To be honest, I might have given this shaft a perfect score if not for the lack of stopping power.

This isn’t the shaft you want to plug into your hybrids if you’re attacking a lot of greens with them.

But for the rest of us mortals, the Tour AD DI Hybrid is fantastic for garnering extra distance.

This is more-or-less a point-and-shoot shaft as well so it will help anyone who is struggling with accuracy.

Plus, it comes in a wide variety of weights and flexes so it is viable for many different swing speeds.

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Graphite Designs Tour AD DI Shaft Review

on January 18, 2017

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The Graphite Designs Tour AD DI shaft feels great and put up some spectacular numbers. Easy to see why it’s such a hit on the PGA Tour.

Check out the low launch, low spin Tour AD VF HERE

Introduction

The goal of any manufacturer is to build hype around their product organically. Smothering the consumer with ads is fine, but it’s nothing compared to the consumer seeing all of their friends talking about and using a product. That latter scenario is what seemed to happen overnight with the Graphite Designs Tour AD DI shaft.

From Charles Howell III to Tiger Woods to Adam Scott, it felt like every PGA Tour pro was playing the orange “Deep Impact,” and every forum was chattering about it. The momentum continues to the 2016-2017 season as Hideki Matsuyama uses one in his driver to stack up wins. We put this tour-proven shaft through the paces to see how it performs for those of us without PGA Tour swings.

Love the AD DI but want something new? Check out the Graphite Design Tour AD UB HERE

Graphite Designs has a formula for the graphics of their Tour AD shafts, and the DI doesn’t vary from it. It’s primarily one solid color with some rings in the mid-butt area and very simple graphics . While some of the colors are bold, the graphics are no nonsense.

Unlike most of their line up, the AD DI does come in two flavors: black and the signature orange . Go stealth or stand out, the choice is yours.

Somehow I missed out on the AD DI craze a couple years ago, but after one swing I immediately understood what all the fuss was about. This shaft has a tremendous kick to it, but it never feels out of control. The company’s description is “Medium” in the butt and mid and “Stiff” in the tip, which matches my assessment exactly. You get a smooth, powerful kick through impact, but the tip doesn’t feel loose or torque-y, even on mishits.

As an aside, kudos to Graphite Designs for taking all the voodoo out of shaft descriptions. For each of their shafts, they describe the butt, mid, and tip sections on a scale that ranges from “Very Stiff” to “Soft.” This makes it easy to figure out what you might like and what you want to try next.

Performance

When I love the feel of a shaft, chances are its going to perform well for me. That was certainly the case with the Graphite Designs AD DI.

I started my testing with the stiff flex version of the AD DI. The smooth kick made me feel like I was delivering effortless power to the ball, and the results were very solid. When I bumped up to the X flex, things got even better. The kick was slightly less pronounced, as you’d expect, but the consistency of the results was through the roof. Every shot was near the center of the face, and the monitor was showing the same push-draw time after time .

For players who haven’t hit Graphite Designs shafts and can’t make use of their feel chart, I would say that the AD DI is a mix of the Diamana Blue and White shafts. It has the smooth feel and pronounced kick of the blue with the strong tip of the white. For me, that adds up to great consistency with tremendous feel .

Prior to this review, my experience with Graphite Designs shafts had been minimal, but now the AD DI is making a serious push to go in the bag. It blends some of the best attributes of my favorite shafts, and the performance simply can’t be argued with. Waiting to get this into play is just one more reason that this winter is going to feel really long.

32 Comments

First of all, I thank you for your website. Passionate about golf and about gear of golf , you are for me , the website number one on the subject .

I particularly appreciated your review of the ADDI shaft. GRAPHITE DESIGN being one of my favorite trademarks. I hope that others tests of the range are going to follow. Thank you again ! Excuse-me for my broken English. Patrick

Hey Matt, always enjoy reading your reviews. This GD Tour AD DI is a shaft I keep hearing about and seeing in clubs over the years. It was no surprise to hear you were impressed by it, but it was really interesting to see that you were concentrating on the proper flex for yourself(S vs. XS). With that said, I was wondering what your thoughts are on the Stiff shaft. I know you will ultimately fall back on getting fit….understood. But given what you experienced for yourself, which appeared to be that you need the XS shaft for your swing speed to maximize accuracy, what would you venture the S flex would be good for in terms of swing speed? Assuming a smooth swing and 102-103 mph….S flex? Once again, I know a fitting is absolutely a must, but what swing speed range do you think might benefit best from the S flex AD DI shaft?

The thing that impressed me about the AD DI is that I could have been very happy playing the S, I just preferred the shot shape with the X. The S is also so smooth, I think it could work all the way down to, perhaps 95 MPH. Around 100 MPH is probably the sweet spot.

Matt, surprised it has taken so long to try out this iconic shaft. I am 100 SS and the GD DI 60 Stiff is the shaft I keep coming back to. Best feel yet never seems overpowered. Also agreed with the comment that it sits between the Diamana Blue and White. More stable than the Blue and more feel than the White.

And if you want that next level of stiffness / low ball flight try the BB. I noticed Kaymer just moved from DI to BB in driver, but kept DI in other woods. It also comes in Black which I think was a special order/ request from Adam Scott a few years back.

First of all I thank you for your site !

For me you are the number one ! I particularly appreciated your review of the ADDI ; GD being one of my favorites trademarks I hope that others tests of the range are going to follow

thank you again Patrick ( paris)

We will have a review of the AD TP coming soon and hopefully more to follow after that. Any models in particular that you’re interested in?

Thank you Matt !

a review of the AD TP would be perfect ! AD MT too !

Thanks, Matt. As it is often said the shaft is the “engine” of the club and the key to proper fitting. For us mere mortals, may I presume that this shaft also comes in a “Regular” form for slower swing speeds? Thanks again. Steve

Yes, it’s available in R2 (senior) through X.

I have the AD DI-7s shaft in my TaylorMade 2017 M2 3 wood. It’s the best club I’ve ever owned. My swing speed is around 105mph, yet I feel as if however hard I swing with this shaft, it just copes and continues to deliver. The feel is exquisite. Now all I have to do is see if I can find a driver to put this shaft into!

Hi Matt, I have just purchased a Ping G400 Max Driver…Reg stock stand.shaft. I am 70 yo on 18 h/c. Would I benefit from fitting an Ad Di Shaft ? In a regular form. My swing speed is around 90 to100. Can I buy in Australia?

I’m not sure who distributes Graphite Design in Australia.

There’s no inherent reason why the AD DI would be better than the stock PING shaft. The only way it would be better is if it’s a better fit for your swing, which you could find out by working with a high quality club fitter.

Love the podcast!

Are these averages from the S or X flex?

This was a while back but I believe the X was the better fit.

What was your ball flight with the S?

I’m not going to be able to reliably tell you any more than is in the review, this was written quite a while back.

Great review. How would you compare this shaft to the Tensei series? Also, in the past have you ever put together a shaft comparison chart?

There are a lot of different profiles in the Tensei series, but overall both the Tensei and Graphite Designs shafts are consistent and high quality. I have not put together a shaft comparison chart because we encourage everyone to be fit.

Hi Matt, I have the choice of the Di 60g stiff or VENTUS Black 6 60g in New St200 G, VENTUS is newer to market, what do you think.?

I would suggest getting fit and finding the best option for your swing. If you want to know what fits my swing, you can see my WITB here: https://pluggedingolf.com/about/matt-saternus/matts-whats-in-the-bag/

Hey Matt, Hopefully you still remember the feel of this shaft since it was reviewed a number of years ago…. In the review you stated that the feel was somewhere between Diamana BF and DF. Now I am curious to know whether the feel of the AD DI is similar to the Diamana ZF in your experience since the ZF is considered to be in between DF and BF regarding feel. I know you did the review on the ZF already but maybe I am just looking for a confirmation. Hope you can answer my question, thanks!

Overall, yes, they’re somewhat similar.

would you recommend AD_D1 7x for a senior who’s swing speed is down?

A 70 gram X flex is not something I would recommend for someone whose speed is going down, unless it’s going down from a truly elite level.

Are you able to share what head(s) you had conducted this shaft review with? As always appreciate you and plugged in.

Thanks, Mike

I always test with my gamer, the PING G425 Max.

I demoed the DI-6s with a fitter a while back and he thought it was my best fit from what we had available. However my club head SS is only mid, maybe high 90s, which according to GD suggests a stiff- regular. The fitter doesn’t have a SR with a Ping tip to demo. I’m playing a Ping tour 65 stiff ok right now but the DI was better.

If anything, the DI-6 stiff plays smoother/less demanding than the Ping tour stiff, true? Apparently the DI-6s might play ok down to mid 90s as you mentioned? Otoh worst case, a stiff-regular wouldn’t be flimsy, true?

Thanks for any thoughts…$370 shaft, good grief:-)

Yes, I think the AD-DI will feel softer/smoother than the PING Tour in the same flex. Personally, I would be hesitant to buy anything I hadn’t tested, especially for $370. If you thought the stiff felt good and it worked well, I would stick with that rather than taking a chance on the SR.

Does anyone have experience with the 105x hybrid/driving iron shaft? Thoughts? Is it “too stiff”?

Good morning! I wanted to see if you could share a thought or two comparing the Tour AD DI vs the Ventus TR Red. Thanks

I have a full review of the Ventus TR Red here: https://pluggedingolf.com/fujikura-ventus-tr-red-shaft-review/

Matt I have these with my Itobori cavity back irons. When bought this set-up I wasn’t quite ready for the cavity back irons. After alot of practice and lessons… Great shaft they load up perfectly with my swing making me look better than I am…I have standards lofts not jack up.

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Graphite Design Tour AD Hybrid Shafts Review

By Paul Liberatore

August 19, 2024

Time to read 5 min

Golfers are becoming more aware of the benefits of being properly fit for their equipment. Longer distances, more accuracy, and lower scores can all be achieved by getting the right equipment for your swing. Although it is common place for many golfers, the fittings often stop at drivers and irons. Golfers neglect their fairway woods, wedges, putters, and importantly, hybrids. Getting a whole bag fitting is the best way to make sure there are no holes in your bag. Hybrids especially can be versatile clubs that can allow golfer to lay up, attack par-3 holes, and escape trouble from around the course. Matching the hybrid club head to a high performance shaft can unlock swing benefits you have likely never experienced if you have never been fit for a hybrid or tired the Graphite Design Tour AD hybrid shafts.

Table of Content

Key Features

High Launch – Graphite Design Tour AD HY

Medium Launch – Graphite Design Tour AD IZ

Low Launch – Graphite Design Tour AD DI

And speaking of precision, this shaft offers unmatched control, allowing you to shape your shots with ease. Whether you need a fade or a draw, this shaft will help you hit your target with pinpoint accuracy. But it doesn’t stop there. The Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid 85 shaft also delivers optimal energy transfer, giving you that extra power and distance you’ve been craving. Say goodbye to those weak shots that fall short of the green. With this shaft, you’ll be hitting it long and strong.

Design and Technology

Graphite design tour ad di hybrid shaft.

The Tour AD DI is unmistakable and the performance of the shaft matches. Made with high modulus aerospace quality carbon fiber and the Material Stiffness Integration (MSI) the Tour AD DI is a complete hybrid shaft offering. Billed as a mid launch, low to mid spin golf shaft, the AD DI will fit a wide range of golfers and swing styles. Notably, the AD DI is the only Graphite Design Hybrid offered in weights above 100-grams.

Graphite Design Tour AD IZ Hybrid Shaft

The Graphite Design Tour AD IZ is slightly higher launching compared to the Tour AD DI. The Tour AD IZ is well suited for golfers looking to gain more height for approaching greens, especially on longer holes. Golfers looking to elevate lower lofted hybrids will also love the efficiency of this shaft and how easy it is to swing. The AD IZ is the perfect complement to the AD DI and great for golfers looking to secure the middle part of their golf bag.

Graphite Design Tour AD HY Shaft

The AD HY hybrid shaft is the highest launching hybrid specific shaft from Graphite Design. The Tour AD HY is perfect for golfers that present slower speeds to the ball or that need to increase their launch angles coming from the fairways and roughs. If you struggle getting your golf ball into the air, the AD HY is the shaft for you.

Offers unmatched control, allowing you to shape your shots with ease and hit your target with pinpoint accuracy
Delivers optimal energy transfer for extra power and distance
Considered the industry leader in hybrid shaft performance
Requires more attention to match the wide range of hybrid clubhead weights, shapes, and configurations
Fitting is necessary to ensure you get the most performance possible from your hybrids
May be more expensive than some other hybrid shaft options on the market

Our Experience

Getting fit for your hybrids and then building the shaft to match your specific delivery conditions is the best route to ensure you get the most performance possible from your hybrids. Graphite Design shafts stand out as the best for golfers that demand performance throughout the middle of their golf bags.

Other premium options are available but the matrix of the Tour AD DI, Tour AD IZ, and Tour AD HY offer almost everything golfers need in three easy models. My favorite is the Tour AD DI and I love the offering in my driving iron and hybrids. Overall, I saw better distance control and more accuracy coming from the fairway with the Tour AD DI over all competing hybrid shafts.

The complete offering Graphite Design has for golfers of all swing types and speeds is impressive. No matter what you are looking for, Graphite Design can dial you in with one of their Tour AD offerings. Low, middle, and high launch offerings make it easy to get your ideal flight. We recommend using a professional club fitter to help you find yours today.

Frequently Asked Questions

Can this shaft be customized to a different length or weight.

Yes, this shaft can be customized to different lengths and weights. Customized modifications can optimize shaft performance for individual players. I’d recommend consulting with a professional club fitter for personalized adjustments.

What Is the Warranty or Guarantee on This Shaft?

The warranty of this shaft is like a safety net for your game. Graphite Design offers a 1-year warranty for manufacturing defects. Customization options are available for length and weight, ensuring ideal swing characteristics and club compatibility.

Are There Any Specific Swing Characteristics or Playing Styles That This Shaft Is Best Suited For?

I find that the Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid Shaft is best suited for players with a smooth swing tempo and seeking a mid-high shot trajectory. The stiff flex and advanced graphite material properties contribute to its performance.

How Does the Torque of This Shaft Compare to Other Models?

In comparison to other models, the torque of this shaft is lower, offering increased stability and control. Shaft customization allows for fine-tuning to match individual swing characteristics and playing styles, enhancing overall performance on the course.

Can This Shaft Be Used for Both Hybrid and Fairway Wood Clubs?

Absolutely, this shaft is versatile and compatible with both hybrid and fairway wood clubs. Its design and flex make it a top choice for players seeking high performance across different clubs in their bag.

Each golfer is different, and those differences are exaggerated in the hybrid sections of the golf bag. As some of the longest clubs players frequently hit from the ground, hybrids can be the most difficult to get fit correctly. Do not just think that what shaft you put into your driver will be best as you move into other graphite shafts.

Each club should fit a specific role and building it to fit you is the best approach. The complete offering Graphite Design has for golfers of all swing types and speeds is impressive. No matter what you are looking for, Graphite Design can dial you in with one of their Tour AD offerings. Low, middle, and high launch offerings make it easy to get your ideal flight. We recommend using a professional club fitter to help you find yours today.

Paul Liberatore

As the Founder of Golfers Authority Paul Liberatore Esq. has spent the last 7+ years writing about the best golf equipment or instruction from the top golf instructors in the world. He has been a contributing writer for Sports Illustrated Golf and GolfWRX . After graduating with honors from Purdue University, he realized that he had a passion for the golf business and the law. When he's not practicing law, or creating golf content on YouTube, he can be found on his syndicated Behind the Golf Brand podcast talking with the most prolific leaders in the golf industry.

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Driving Iron vs. Hybrid: Pros and cons in action

So-called utility irons or driving irons are in increasing demand and the manufacturers are also constantly expanding their range of products. It has been shown that such a club makes a lot of sense for a certain group of players. Especially for those who have little to do with a hybrid and need a kind of "gap filler" between irons and fairway woods. Then again, there are players who have to choose between hybrid and driving iron and for whom both are possible alternatives. So it is all the more important to take a closer look at this issue. Let's first look at the theoretical differences:

The Head Design

The most obvious difference is of course the shape itself. A driving iron is still an iron that is cast or forged, for example. For our test we used a forged driving iron made of soft steel. A driving iron usually has a longer clubface than normal irons and considerably more mass in the sole. With modern driving irons you get the maximum support and it plays much easier than a "normal" long iron. This is why many players are now replacing their long irons with driving irons (or hybrids) - even on the tour.

A hybrid, on the other hand, tends to be a smaller and more compact fairway wood. The interior is hollow and the sole is maximally wide. However, the clubface itself does not have to be larger than that of a driving iron - on the contrary. It is usually not quite as long.

The Clubface

An important difference is the fact that the face of a driving iron is straight and not "curved". The face of the hybrid, on the other hand, is convex. The idea behind this, as with drivers and woods, is simply that the clubface will counteract the impact of balls hit outside the sweet spot. If you hit the ball e.g. at the toe, the curved face makes sure that the face direction is more "open" to compensate the left tendency by the so-called "gear effect". This is also the case with thin hits that provide less loft than higher hits. With these the launch is flatter to compensate for the additional spin. So the curved construction has advantages in principle, but not only as we will see later.

Setup of the test

Our goal was to make everything comparable as good as possible. Hybrid and Driving Iron both had exactly 20°, the lie was identical and the shaft for both was the KBS TGI 85 X . The swing weight was also balanced. This is a fair comparison, because the only difference in this test was the club head.

Our test: Hybrid vs. Driving Iron off the deck

Our aim was to hit a green 210m away with both clubs. A quite sporty task that both clubs have to be able to cope with. A very helpful shot for long par 3s or par 5s. Let's have a look at the values:

Both clubs were hit with a clubhead speed of 96mph and an efficiency of 1.40. The ball speed is practically identical and there are only two differences, but these are very important.

Launch and spin

The Driving Iron launched at 11.5°, which is significantly lower than the hybrid's 13.8°. With the spin the result was exactly the opposite: 3800rpm with the driving iron and 4500 with the hybrid. Basically one can say that a driving iron launches flatter and produces less spin.

But everything else would have been surprising, because the hybrid is already designed for more launch and more spin. Interesting is also the fact that the dynamic loft with the driving iron is lower. Our test player intuitively adapted to the club and deliberately played the driving iron a little steeper. This can also be seen on the Angle of Attack. The hybrid allows a slightly flatter swing with the head shape alone and requires less "compression".

Conclusion of the "off the deck" comparison

It is not surprising that the driving iron produces a flatter launch, less spin and therefore a flatter trajectory. In terms of carry length it flies a little further - which is mainly due to the lower spin. However, this also has its disadvantages, because it makes it a bit more difficult to play the green. Less spin and a flatter angle of descent is not ideal. However, this is relative and very individual. Some players can also control a green shot with less than 4000rpm. And here, playing skills are also important. For example, if I manage to play the driving iron with a cut and more spin on the green, I can achieve the same values as with the hybrid. Then again, flags can be played very well.

There are various reasons why the majority of tour pros are currently tending towards driving irons. This is one of them. The other reason is that most hybrids are equipped with a lot of offset. Especially contract players have to resort to the hybrid that is currently on the market from the manufacturer. Offset, however, is something that hardly any tour player needs or appreciates. Rather, it ensures that a draw tendency is exacerbated, something that only very few tour players can use.

Driving Iron vs. Hybrid from the tee

It looks a little different again from the tee. But here, too, the same tendency applies: the hybrid produces more spin at a higher launch. Here the values are 13.1° vs. 14° and 4140rpm vs. 4780rpm. That is quite a difference. The task of our test player was to get the ball onto the fairway in as controlled a way as possible and to achieve a decent length. In this respect the differences were marginal. The test player hit the hybrid a bit better, the ball speed was 4mph higher. But due to the higher launch and the high spin, almost identical distances were achieved.

So our player produced basically the same result although he hit the ball much worse in this test with the driving iron. It is also the case that you notice the differences in the head construction off the tee. A hybrid is able to achieve higher ball speeds.

Our recommendation: Driving Iron or Hybrid?

There are many factors to consider when deciding and the most important ones are the following:

A hybrid generates more spin and a higher launch
Attacking the green with the driving iron is much more difficult than with the hybrid
Hybrids usually have more offset than driving irons. This is not optimal for draw-heavy players
Driving irons fly flatter and are easier to control, especially in windy conditions

The following is added: A hybrid "corrects" misses better than a driving iron because of the curved face. With this, the "gear effect" is at least somewhat compensated for. This also applies to balls that are hit further down or up on the hitting surface. This means for example: if the ball is a bit higher in the semi-rough and is therefore hit high on the face, the hybrid produces a very high launch but at the same time only minimal spin - similar to the driver. Such a ball then quickly becomes a "flyer" and is hardly controllable. A driving iron produces a more constant launch and spin, so that the variance is less with vertical deviations.

If in doubt, our recommendation would be to go for a hybrid if you know that you can handle or actually need a little more offset. As far as offset is concerned, all models are different and there are certainly Driving Irons with a lot of offset. With a hybrid you should always be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the curved clubface. In many cases it can help, but in others it can make life more difficult. If you play mostly on soft courses with little wind, you should tend towards the hybrid. If you need the club off the tee more often to produce flat, controlled but long shots, you should tend to use driving iron.

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Driving Iron vs Hybrid: Which Should You Choose?

Driving irons vs hybrids is a hot debate, and while they each have their own pros and cons, there is significant use case overlap.

Picking the right clubs for your golf bag can be a troublesome task. After all, you’re restricted to just 14, and what if you desperately need that one club you chose to omit?

That’s why it’s important to think long and hard about which clubs are worthy of a valuable spot in your bag.

So, is a driving iron or hybrid better for your game? Driving irons are better for low-handicappers seeking more distance and a low launch angle, but they’re less forgiving. Hybrids are better for mid to high-handicappers offering them more distance and spin. Most golfers would do better going with a hybrid.

Read on to let us help break down everything you need to know about each type of club, and, ultimately, which is best for you.

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Driving irons usually have a hollow-body form with an increased mass on the sole and a longer clubface than standard long irons. They also have straight clubfaces, as you would expect.

While driving irons are not quite as popular as hybrids, they certainly have their appeal, especially for more skilled golfers. We say this on full display at St Andrews in 2022 when the likes of Rory Mcllroy and Justin Thomas used them to great effect.

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Like driving irons, hybrids are hollow and designed for distance and ease of use. As a mix between woods and irons, they bring the best of both worlds and are very popular with amateur and professional golfers alike.

While the clubface tends to be a little shorter than a driving iron, it is very wide, which helps to give it a high launch. The clubface is also curved, giving you a “gear effect,” which helps to correct any off-center strikes.

Using a Driving Iron

Excellent distance
More forgiving than standard long irons
Available in a variety of lofts
Good for draws and fades
Not as forgiving as other clubs
Hard to use in the rough
Requires moderate skill

Using a Hybrid

Highly versatile
Very forgiving
Easy to launch
High launch is bad for windy conditions
Heavy spin is not to everyone’s liking

What Are the Differences Between Driving Irons and Hybrids?

Driving irons fly very similarly to standard long irons. They have a low launch angle and are excellent at cutting through the wind. Their carry distance is respectable, but their roll really gives them that extra push.

As driving irons produce very low spin, they give the ball plenty of roll on the fairway or green, resulting in maximum distance.

As for hybrids, their launch angle is much higher with increased spin. This is due to their lower center of gravity. As such, hybrids are perfect for getting you out of tough spots, and they are also ideal when you want a nice cushioned landing on the green with little roll.

Now for the all-important question: which has the most overall distance, hybrids vs driving irons? This is a tricky one to tackle as it’s very dependent on playing conditions and personal preferences.

That being said, a general rule is if you are a mid to high-handicapper, you’ll probably get greater distances out of the hybrid. However, if you’re a low handicapper, a driving iron will almost certainly give you better distance.

Both driving irons and hybrids are more forgiving than long irons, the clubs you will be using in place of. However, there is quite a divergence between driving irons and hybrids regarding forgiveness.

Driving irons are the less forgiving of the two. The sole is narrower, and the center of gravity is higher. Hybrids, on the other hand, are renowned for their forgiveness. It’s the reason they became so popular. Many players simply struggle to find consistency when hitting long irons, so replacing them with hybrids is a logical decision.

Recommended Hybrid and Driving Iron Clubs

Our favorite driving iron is the Cleveland Launcher UHX. It sports a hollow-body build with a powerful variable-strength steel face insert. The v-shaped sole also helps enhance turf interaction, ensuring no loss of speed. As such, you can expect excellent distance and respectably more forgiveness than standard long irons.

As for our favorite hybrid, it’s the TaylorMade Stealth Rescue. This model sees 7 grams of mass relocated to create an incredibly stable hybrid. Its C300 Twist Face also helps push the MOI to 15% higher than the SIM Max, thus making it super easy to get a great launch even on poor swings.

To add to this, the Thru-Slot Speed Pocket allows you to achieve excellent speeds and assist with forgiveness on strikes that you contact too low on the clubface.

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Matt has played golf since he was 4 years old and has written over 150 articles at GolfSpan since 2021. Matt specializes in product reviews using his postgraduate degree in Sports Marketing from Johan Cruyff Institute. Matt has a handicap index of 10.8 and currently plays weekly at Pilar Golf Course near his home in Buenos Aires, Argentina. He also loves his Callaway Odyssey Exo Rossie putter and likes a pepper steak pie with curry gravy at the turn. You can connect with him on LinkedIn .

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Britt O has been playing golf since the age of 7. Almost 30 years later, she still loves the game, has played competitively on every level, and spent a good portion of her life as a Class A PGA Professional. Britt currently resides in Savannah, GA, with her husband and two young children. Current Handicap: 1

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Choosing the golf clubs that make it into your bag can be difficult.

With only being allowed 14 clubs, the decision as to whether to include a combination of hybrids, long irons, driving irons, and fairway woods really confuses some golfers.

I’ve always found that one of the most important steps is to understand the difference between clubs like a driving iron and a hybrid. Take a look at driving iron vs. hybrid, which one you should have in your bag, and why!

Main Differences Between a Driving Iron and Hybrid

Sometimes when looking at a driving iron or a utility iron and a hybrid , you can see quite a few similarities. In addition, both of these clubs are intended to get players’ distance and help with improving tee shots and overall performance in the long game.

However, where you see big differences between the driving iron and the hybrid are in the ball flight, forgiveness, carry distance, and playability.

Ball Flight

Traditional long irons have a low and penetrating ball flight. These clubs have less spin than others in the bag and are designed to have slightly less carry distance but plenty of roll.

When you replace these long irons with a hybrid, you will notice that the ball goes considerably higher. The center of gravity in a hybrid is positioned low and in the center, and it increases the ball flight that players get from their shots.

With a higher ball flight, expect that the ball will stop on a green easier and you can use the hybrid for approach shots with ease.

Driving irons, on the other hand, are very similar to long irons in their ball flight, launch angle, and trajectory. This club is designed to keep shots a bit lower and cut them through the wind and rough conditions.

Both of these shots can be important. The way I always decided which was best for my game was by looking at the golf bag as a whole and deciding where these gaps in performance were. If I already have many high flying shots in my bag, the driving iron may help give me more variety.

Forgiveness

Forgiveness in golf clubs is something that will vary from one manufacturer to another. Sometimes a hybrid golf club can be made to be highly forgiving, and other times it is more of a players hybrid and will instead be workable.

The forgiveness of a hybrid is traditionally a bit higher than a driving iron or a long iron. This is why the club has so much popularity. Traditionally speaking, the average golfer does quite well with the hybrid clubs and their ease of use, especially from the rough.

With driving irons, you tend to see less forgiveness, but this sometimes has to do with the total loft. The lower the loft of a golf club, the harder it is to hit. Many driving irons have a 2 iron or 3 iron loft because they are designed to help a golfer have an alternative to a driver off the tee.

Carry Distance

Carry distance, roll, and total distance are the three parameters used to determine how far a golf ball will travel.

With a driving iron, expect slightly lower carry distances but long total distances. Hybrid golf clubs will have higher carry distances but lower total distances.

Again, this decision will require you to pair up your current level of play to the equipment that will make the most significant difference in your game. For many golfers, carry distance is the most important factor when it comes to accuracy and approach shots that land near the pin.

Playability

The playability of the club refers to your ability to control the ball’s flight and trajectory, as well as the type of lie that you can use the club from.

A hybrid is typically not the most workable golf club in the bag. Even when you make a great swing, you will notice that the ball goes relatively straight and high, and it’s hard to control this. However, hitting a hybrid out of the rough or even out of a divot is quite easy to accomplish.

On the other hand, the driving iron is tough to hit out of the rough or sloped lie. This is a club that should be saved for clean fairway lies or even on a tee box on a long par 3, or a par 4 with a tight fairway.

However, one of the great things about a driving iron is that you can hit a cut or a draw with this club in hand quite easily.

Pros and Cons of a Driving Iron

There are both positives and negatives to any golf club in the bag. More and more players realize that the driving iron can be an alternative not just to the hybrid or long iron but also to fairway wood and, for some golfers, an alternative to a driver.

Comes in a wide range of lofts that help fill in the golf bag
Low spin typically increases total roll and accuracy
Shaft choices in both graphite and steel shafts
Lightweight and aerodynamic for increased clubhead speed
More and more options are brought to market each year
Does not have as much forgiveness; the sole is narrower
It can be difficult to hit out the rough
Seems to be a better fit for the higher swing speed players

Pros and Cons of a Hybrid

The hybrid golf club has really revolutionized the game of golf. So many more players are taking out their long irons and putting in hybrids. However, there are still some players who state that the hybrid is a poor decision for their game.

With a hybrid golf club, you are not going to get perfection. Instead, the club does a great job of combining both forgiveness and distance to give players what they are looking for and make the game more enjoyable.

Very easy to launch
Great club for replacing the long irons
High launch out of the rough
Available in many different lofts
Lightweight graphite shaft options for higher ball speed
Easy distance
Not as workable as other golf clubs
It can be hard to control the ball flight
Not as many options for the lower handicap player

When to Use Each Type of Club

Now that you have a better idea as to what the hybrid and driving iron have in common and where they can benefit your game, it’s time to understand where it makes sense to use each of these clubs.

Club selection is what helps golf course management, and golfers that are good at it have much better results from a scoring perspective.

Off The Tee Box

You can use either the hybrid or the driving iron off the tee box. However, my preference would be the driving iron.

If you are a player that struggles with a club that can be your go-to choice for a straight drive that catches some extra roll, the driving iron is a great club to consider. The tee box allows you a perfect lie on a slightly elevated tee, making it easier to hit the driving iron.

When hitting from the tee box with the driving iron or even the hybrid, it can be smart to learn how to hit a stinger-type golf shot that encourages increased roll.

Clean Fairway Lie

The clean fairway lie is another area of the course where you can hit either the driving iron or the hybrid. This would be a situation where you should choose a club based on your confidence level as well as the goal of the end result.

If you are just trying to advance the ball down the fairway as far as possible, the driving iron makes the most sense. For golfers that want to get a shot to land 10 feet from the pin, try the hybrid.

Think about your game as a whole, and try to remember that golfers who have a slightly faster swing speed tend to have better luck with driving irons from these types of lies.

Out of The Rough

When hitting a shot out of the rough, the hybrid is the clear winner. Hybrid golf clubs have an incredibly high launch, and since their clubhead is designed with a bit of extra weight, the club tends to cut through the rough with ease.

Hitting the ball out of the rough requires paying careful attention to the lie to ensure if it’s going to be a flier or if it may knock down the total distance. If your ball is sitting up nicely and you have a driving iron with a bit more loft, don’t be afraid to give the driving iron a shot.

Smart players will know how to read a lie and then combine that knowledge of what the lie will do with their ability to pull off the shot.

Brittany Olizarowicz

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Best Hybrid Golf Shafts 2023 with Recommendations

By DanSueltz June 1st, 2023

These are the Best Hybrid Golf Shafts - 2023 that we have seen. And, our recommendations based on swing categories for the strongest, strong, average and slow swing speeds.

We know that with hybrid golf clubs, many golfers have a love-hate relationship. In our opinion, the reason is that most off-the-rack hybrid shafts are too long, too light and too soft of flex for the average golfer. Read our related blog on Finding the Right Hybrid Shaft.

Get the right shaft for your hybrid golf club. Use our FREE Fit Quiz to See our Recommendations for Length, Shaft Weight, Flex, Trajectory, Spin and Swing Weight for Every Club in your Bag!

And, remember, we can re-shaft your current hybrid(s) to make them perform so much better! So, let's find the best shaft for you based upon your strength (distance), desired trajectory and fit to your current irons:

Strongest Players - 3 Hybrid carries 240+ yards
Strong Players - 3 Hybrid carries 210 - 240 yards
Average Players - 3 Hybrid carries 175 - 205 yards
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The best hybrid golf shafts - 2023 and our recommendations in each category

Strongest players: 3 hybrid - 240+ yards.

See Which Hybrid Shaft Works Best for YOUR Swing!

The strongest players typically play a driver, 3 or 4 wood and a 17 to 19 degree hybrid. We have had great experience fitting these low lofted hybrids in a mid-trajectory steel shaft that is slightly lighter than their iron shafts. If that still feels too heavy, we've had great success going to a 100 - 110 gram graphite shaft based upon desired trajectory.

Strong Players: 3 Hybrid - 210 - 240 yards

See Which Hybrid Shaft Works Best for YOUR Swing! For strong players, we typically fit graphite shafts that are slightly lighter than their iron shafts. Trajectory is important as some golfers in this range use long hybrids on longer par 3 holes. Thus, you want a hybrid shaft that helps get the ball in the air and allows the shots to land softly on the green. Strong players can still launch a low-mid shaft at a good trajectory.

Average Distance Players: 3 Hybrid - 175 - 205 yards

See Which Hybrid Shaft Works Best for YOUR Swing! This is where the majority of our golfers exist. Unfortunately, this group of golfers typically buy hybrids off-the-rack with 60 to 70 gram shafts that are also way too flexible. This causes duck hooks, high fades, topped or fat shots. With a slightly heavier 75 to 85 gram shaft and a little stiffer flex, accuracy and consistency will improve dramatically!

Shorter Distance Players: 3 or 4 Hybrid < 175 yards

See Which Hybrid Shaft Works Best for YOUR Swing! For shorter distance players, we also use combination hybrid/iron shafts so that the weight of the hybrid shaft is very similar to the weight of the iron shafts the golfer is playing. This is especially useful for slower swings we see from some of our junior, senior and lady golfers.

When you select a shaft using our club selector, we always verify the specifications from your fitting profile to make sure it will match your swing characteristics. We have over 35 years of fitting experience so we are confident we can make the proper recommendation for YOUR swing!

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Graphite Design Tour AD DI Shaft Review

Introduction.

The 2024 Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft is a high-performance golf shaft that is designed to help golfers hit the ball longer and straighter. It is made from high-quality materials, including Torayca T1100G carbon fiber and nanoalloy. These materials make the shaft strong, lightweight, and durable.

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The Tour AD DI shaft is available in a variety of weights and flexes to suit all types of golfers. It is also available in a variety of colors, including black, orange, and blue.

The Tour AD DI shaft is a popular choice among professional golfers and tour players. It is also a good choice for amateur golfers who are looking for a high-performance shaft that will help them to improve their driving distance and accuracy.

Which Type of Golfer Does It Cater To?

The Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft is a versatile shaft that can be used by golfers of all skill levels. However, it is especially well-suited for players with faster swing speeds and/or those who are looking for a high launch and low spin. The DI shaft is also a good choice for players who are looking for a smooth and stable feel.

Model Breakdown

The Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft is available in a variety of models, each with its own unique characteristics. The most popular models include:

The standard model, which is designed to provide a high launch and low spin, with a smooth and stable feel.

Tour AD DI-6

A stiffer version of the standard model, designed for players with faster swing speeds.

Tour AD DI-6X

The stiffest version of the DI shaft, designed for players with the fastest swing speeds.

The Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft features a number of technologies that make it one of the most popular shafts on the market. These technologies include:

Torayca T1100G carbon fiber: This ultra-high modulus carbon fiber provides exceptional strength and stability.
Fast Taper Technology (FTT): This technology reduces the taper of the shaft in the midsection, which results in a smoother and more powerful release.
Nanoalloy: This material is added to the shaft to improve its durability and reduce vibration.

The Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft is available in a variety of weights and flexes to suit all types of golfers. The following table shows the available specs:

Pros & Cons

The Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft has a number of pros and cons, which are summarized below:

High launch and low spin
Smooth and stable feel
Durable and vibration-resistant
Available in a variety of weights and flexes
Can be expensive
Not suitable for all golfers, especially those with slower swing speeds

Player/User Comments

Here are some positive player/user comments about the Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft:

“I love the Tour AD DI shaft! It gives me the high launch and low spin that I need to hit long, straight drives.” “The Tour AD DI shaft is the best shaft that I have ever used. It feels great and it helps me to hit my driver more consistently.” “I have been using the Tour AD DI shaft for a few months now and I am very impressed. It has helped me to improve my driving distance and accuracy.” “The Tour AD DI shaft is a bit expensive, but it is worth the investment. It is a high-quality shaft that will last for many years.” “I am a high handicapper, but I still find the Tour AD DI shaft to be very playable. It helps me to hit my driver more consistently and it has also helped me to improve my distance.”

The 2024 Graphite Design Tour AD DI shaft is one of the most popular shafts on the market for a reason. It is a versatile shaft that can be used by golfers of all skill levels and it offers a number of benefits, including a high launch, low spin, smooth feel, and durability. If you are looking for a new shaft for your driver, the Tour AD DI is definitely worth considering.

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Tour AD 55-115 Iron Shafts Product Page

The Tour AD 55-115g Iron Shafts complement the premium Tour AD wood and hybrid series of shafts very well. The Tour AD Irons are designed and manufactured exclusively at the Graphite Design factory headquarters in Japan and are available in a jet black color with white bands and silver rings and in weight ranges from 55 grams to 115 grams.

The Tour AD 55-115g Irons feature a discrete length and constant weight shaft profile, meaning each individual shaft length is designed for each individual iron club loft and each shaft length maintains the same shaft weight from the longest to the shortest club to provide the best feel, balance and performance. The Tour AD 55g-115g iron shafts all have a .355” taper tip.

The Tour AD-55,-65,-75g shafts are available in flexes of Regular and Stiff and are designed to promote mid/high ball flight and mid spin. The Tour AD-85g shafts are available in flexes of Regular and Stiff and are designed to promote mid ball flight and mid spin. The Tour AD-95g shafts are available in men’s flexes of Stiff and X-Stiff and are designed to promote mid ball flight and low/mid spin.

The Tour AD-105 & AD-115g iron models are a combo-flex Stiff/X-Stiff flex offering designed to produce a lower, piercing ball flight with low/mid spin rates. Contact Pro’s Choice sales for additional details.

Take advantage of the superior distance with precise accuracy that Graphite Design shafts can offer and give the Tour AD premium iron graphite shafts a try in your next set of irons. Revolutionary technology, design and the most advanced materials are trademarks in all Graphite Design shafts, resulting in the highest quality premium golf shafts on the market today. Validating the company’s “Tour AD” logo, all of Graphite Design’s Tour proven shafts are specifically designed to promote a gain in A ccuracy and D istance.

Features & Technology:

High modulus, premium, aerospace quality carbon fiber materials.
Graphite Design proprietary M aterial S tiffness I ntegration ( MSI ) design philosophy and technology.

Bend Profile:

Performance:

Designed to be very versatile with multiple weights available to promote Low/Mid to Mid/High launch angles with Low/Mid to Mid ball spin rates.
MSRP – AD 55g – 95g: $140
MSRP – AD 105g-115g: $375

Tip Trimming:

The Tour AD 55g-115g Iron shafts are all .355″ Taper Tip shafts, therefore Pro’s Choice recommends only Butt Trimming them to your desired club length.
Pro’s Choice encourages consulting a PGA Professional or qualified club builder to help you determine the correct shaft and length for your swing profile and to meet your goals.
Improper installation may affect the intended performance of the shaft. Warranty is for material and workmanship of our products. Improper installation voids warranty of product.

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Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid Shafts

Shaft services optional, description.

The Tour AD DI “DEEP IMPACT” Hybrid shafts are designed to provide golfers with more power and stability in a hybrid golf shaft.

The Tour AD DI Hybrid is designed with the same performance characteristics as the Tour AD DI Wood shafts for a mid/high trajectory with mid spin and pin point accuracy. Players of all skill levels will benefit from the exceptional control, workability and superior performance of the Tour AD DI Hybrid shafts. The result, the Tour AD DI Hybrid shaft delivers players to the next level of superior distance with consistent trajectory control and will create a “DEEP IMPACT” on your game!

Revolutionary technology, design and the most advanced materials are trademarks in all Graphite Design shafts, making them the highest quality premium golf shafts on the market today. Validating the company’s “Tour AD” logo, all of Graphite Design’s PGA Tour-proven shafts are specifically designed to promote a gain in Accuracy and Distance.

Designed with the same performance characteristics as the Tour AD DI Wood shafts, providing a mid/high trajectory with mid spin and pin point accuracy.
Players of all skill levels will benefit from the exceptional control, workability and superior performance of the Tour AD DI Hybrid shafts.

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Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid Shaft Spec Sheet

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PUREing - $25.00

SST PURE identifies asymmetries that exist in every golf shaft and locates each shaft's most stable orientation. This results in more consistent performance and uniform feel from club to club.

Tip Prepping - $2.95

Shafts are tip trimmed (if required) to manufacturer’s recommendations. For steel shafts, we abrade the tips. For graphite shafts, we remove the polyurethane coating. When you receive your shaft, all you need to do is mix epoxy, install and align. After the epoxy is cured, cut to your final playing length from the butt end and install the grip.

Tip & Butt Trimming - $4.95

Shafts are tip trimmed (if required) to manufacturer’s recommendations. For steel shafts, we abrade the tips. For graphite shafts, we remove the polyurethane coating. After tip trimming and prepping, the shafts are butt trimmed to the desired final playing length*.

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Our playing length chart is available here .

* The exact model, club head number, and desired final playing length is required for butt trimming to be possible.

* The club number and or loft is require for tip prepping on most parallel (.335" and .370") golf shafts.

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Callaway Opus Wedges - 2024 Forum Review

By GolfSpy_APH August 20 in Forum Testing Reviews

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GolfSpy_Shark – Callaway OPUS Wedges (2024)

Introduction to The Shark:

For anyone that does not know me my name is Mark Lacasse, father of 2 children, a pup named Winston (name comes from the show New Girl), and husband to my wife of 7 years who puts up with my golf addiction, which of late has not been satisfied (only 5 rounds this year so far unfortunately) but God willing I will be ramping up coming into the most beautiful part of the season here in Massachusetts. The “Shark” reference comes from nieces and nephews calling me Uncle Shark.

I have been a part of MGS for a few years and have discussed a broad range of topics with so many folks here. Several I have met and others I look forward to meeting. Luckily had the chance end of 2023 to become a part of the moderator team which is truly enjoyable even though it has been hampered the past few months with work obligations.

@GolfSpy BOS and myself (I am not the short one)

My golf game I cannot complain about right now. The times I have been out I have my woes but with substantial time off I do not see a major setback in scoring, just a little more inconsistent from time to time. If I had to summarize my game as whole, I would say I rely heavily on feel during a round and tempo. I am not someone that goes to a range a lot, I prefer working on my game on course rather than smashing a bucket of balls. When I am on course I get out of sorts when my backswing is sped up and with that I tend to get very hosely on strikes, luckily the past few years that has been few and far between because I have learned to catch myself doing it and I can break the cycle.

For a long time my game was heavily reliant on being long off the tee, scrambling to the green (especially around the green) and then hopefully draining a putt. Now I am a little shorter off the tee, far better on approach shots and when I get close to the green am pretty consistent on hitting good wedge shots close and not 3 putting.

As far as my bag, I am a pretty committed person and do not like to change to much to often. I have not changed a single club in my bag this year. My current setup is in my signature and for these wedges to take a spot as my gamers there is going to need to be a few specific things they do.

The Callaway OPUS platinum wedges intrigued me because my golf journey started a long time ago but I did not get really serious until 2018. I was fitted a few around then in 2019 for Cleveland CBX2 wedges, I had a much steeper swing at that time so the intent with those was to counteract that chunky wedge. Fast forward to 2020 I made some substantial swing changes especially in my short game, with that the CBX just were not a fit and I graduated to Vokey SM7 which are still currently my gamers. They stood the test of time and I really elevated my wedge game during that time to now where I am extremely confident with a wedge in my hand.

I have been in the market this year but just really was not sure if I wanted a change. I enjoy using my wedges for a full range of shots but my 48* and 52* are weapons for a large range of yardages and I can play several types of shots with either but I have noticed I am definitely losing some spin into the green especially on shots I would expect to see a little zip on the ball with a bounce and check. This is where I am hoping the Opus Platinum wedges shine.

Pre-Test Thoughts:

I have said it before I will say it again, I am not a data junky, but I know when I hit a ball well, when I do not and with my swing I know what my general shop shape should be. With that said here is my testing plan for these wedges:

1) Lots of practice at the practice green. Like I said before I do not love the range, but the practice green is another story. I love hitting wedges and putting if I have the time. I can hit full shots with wedges I know that, it’s the touch shots that these wedges need to stand out on. Can I consistently get into a designated area from 30 yards and in (ideally I would like to see myself putting the ball to 10’ consistently). I will test this out by just designating an area on practice greens and seeing if I can get that check and stop shot.

2) Am I seeing an improvement on proximity to the hole from 90 yards and in with these wedges. I have seen my ball rolling out a little bit more then I am used to this year so on those shots 90 and in I am not able to snag those 1 putt birdie or par saves. I will accomplish this by tracking hole by hole when I play what my general distance is from the hole when I actually hit these wedges. This will be from all yardages.

I will have more as we continue on with this test but for now these are the key items for me. With that I cannot wait to get these in hand and get some rounds in with some easy knock in birdies!

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My name is Charlie, and my bank account has a golf problem! The game is too much fun and has been a great source of relief and therapy over the years. Golf had always been something interesting to me from watching Bob Barker play “Hole in One” to watching Tiger take over the PGA. It was not until my sophomore year in high school back in 1998 when I got to really start playing and never looked back. From playing in Texas and Arizona, to playing while stationed in Hawaii, I have been blessed to see many beautiful, and some not so lovely tracks.

I was primarily self-taught through my golf journey. 3 years ago, I finally decided to get a lesson as I had developed a wicked nasty banana hook. I thought it would be a simple fix, but the coach insisted I get a complete overhaul on my swing. I was gutted but knew this was for the better. Now, I am playing the best golf of my life!

Wedges are the last thing I have looked at when it came to improving my game. I have usually gone with what looks cool and what I could build. My prior set of wedges lasted 10 years before upgrading earlier this year to another trio of conventional 52/56/60-degree wedges. As much as I wanted to consider some CBX Full Face wedges, I still hesitated to consider spending on a more premium set when I felt I was “good enough” with the conventional build set.

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I am excited to see if the promise of a lower launching wedge along with easy spin via SPIN-GEN face and new “face blast” processing holds true. It’s easy enough to say upgrading to these wedges from the already generic set I have will be a big difference, but how much more of a difference would they make, and would it justify the $230 price tag for those looking to make the switch? With the use of my Garmin R10, ProV1/ProV1X RCT’s, and some swings around the greens/sand/dirt/tree/anything the course throws at me, my hope is to bring you all the most honest and data backed review I can provide. I am expecting Callaway and the known success of the Jaws line along with their already impressive arsenal of clubs to deliver on what is promised; lower flight, easy spin, excellent feel, and envy inducing looks.

Let’s do this!!!!

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GolfSpy_SHARK , sirchunksalot , GolferXY and 7 others

Chux Bag o' Magic:

Juggernaut Max CB Full Face 52,56,60° Wedges

Tech: Garmin R10/Galaxy Watch 5 Pro Golf Edition

---Opus Platinum Forum Testing Review---

Good afternoon everyone! I am currently sitting in an auto shop waiting to have new tires put on my truck, so now is as good a time as any to get this party kicked off. My name is Chas, and I have a problem: I haven't been able to play a full round of golf in over a week! I started playing while I was in middle school, but growing up there were no courses near me that weren't private and EXPENSIVE, so I had to give it up when I started high school. I recently moved to Orlando for work, and my buddy suggested we start playing golf on the weekends since that's about the only time we can hang out. I bought a set of 2nd hand clubs in April and haven't looked back since. I've already replaced everything in that original set with something new/new-ish, as they were all 12-15 year old clubs. I've taken some lessons, and have been hitting the driving range regularly. I played my first real round of golf since I was a teenager on June 21st, and I've played 19 more rounds since then. It definitely helps that I have 2 very reasonably priced courses within 5 minutes of my house, and about 50 others within a 1 hour drive.

I'm currently sitting at about a 25-30 handicap, most of which is due to my downright garbage putting, but I'm working on it. Clubhead speed on my driver is about 105MPH, so when I get ahold of the ball well, it goes. At the moment I would say my approach/short game around the green is my biggest strength, so I'm super excited to test out these wedges. For the most part I generate plenty of spin and see very little roll out on well struck shots on my short irons, just a little hop n' stop when I'm playing well. I'm currently rocking a set of Taylormade MG4's (50°/56°/60°), but the gapping with my new iron set is less than ideal as my PW loft is 42° and has a carry of around 130 yards average while my 50° gets about 105 yards at absolute best. I had initially planned to stick with the 50°/56° Opus wedges for a real apples to apples comparison, but I may be switching it up with the testing and going for the 48°/54° combo. There is a very small likelihood I choose a lob wedge for testing, as most of the courses I play have very fluffy rough that is borderline unplayable for a lob wedge. Currently planning to get the lower bounce options, as I have a relatively shallow swing plane and take very little, if any, divot on a good shot, which means I have a tendency to thin the ball if the club has a lot of bounce. I have a fitting scheduled for Friday, so we'll see how it goes and I'll keep everyone updated with my choices. Testing-wise, I'm going to ride these clubs hard and put em' away wet. I am lucky to have a job that I can leave around 4pm, so I play often in the late afternoon as long as it's not storming. My favorite close course has a really great chipping/pitching practice area, and I intend to give these Opus Wedges a good thrashing there at the first opportunity. The course also has Trackman range, so I can get some good data on distance/speed/height/etc. On the course, I've been playing from the 2nd closest tee box in an effort to work more on my accuracy and decision making. Playing from the farther tees, it's almost always driver unless you're on a par 3, but from the closer tees if I play driver I'll wind up in a bunker or the woods past the dogleg, so I've found myself hitting more long to medium wedge shots as an approach vs. a mid iron that's typical from the longer tees. I also have a week off coming up, and I plan to travel and play golf at some unfamiliar courses around the southeast, so it will be nice to see how confidence-inspiring the Opus wedges are when playing in unfamiliar territory where you might not you're about to make a mistake when you mis-hit the ball. I also partake in a Topgolf League at work which will be starting back up in early September, which will give me plenty of opportunity to test out the consistency of the wedges on shorter targets. I've done a little research, and it seems the Opus wedges fill a similar niche as my current MG4 as a top of the line wedge with only a smidge of forgiveness, vs. something like the CB series of wedges. I wouldn't say I'm a Callaway fanboy, but I do have a new Callaway bag, Smoke AI Irons, a Paradym X 3-wood and an Epic Max 5-wood, as well as an Odyssey Jailbird Cruiser putter, soooo... Ok, you got me, I like Callaway. I will say, I am pleased as punch that these wedges don't have any AI branding or camo on them, as I think it's kind of lame looking, but what I care about at the end of the day is performance. Luckily, with the Opus wedges I'm already smitten: I really like the smooth lines and minimal offset, and the plating looks... *chefs kiss* . In terms of actual results, my biggest issue with my current wedges is that I'm not super happy with the amount of spin I get on full shots, so what I really want to see out of the Opus wedges is a little more spin on full shots. I also like the fully coated face, as they should last longer and keep higher spin levels vs. the raw face of the MG4s I run with at the moment. I figure I'll leave it at that for now, I don't think I need a novel for an introduction. If anyone has any questions tag me and I'll answer 'em as they come!

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Titleist TSR2 9degree

Callaway Paradym X 3W

Callaway Epic Max 5W

Callaway Paradym AI Smoke 4-PW

Wedges: Taylormade MG4 50-degree, Cleveland Tour Action 588 56-degree

Nike Putter

Hey spies, I just wanted to give a formal introduction for those who don't know me. My name is Scott and I'm 40 and getting gray lol. I was born and raised in Louisville, KY and still live here! I married my high school prom date, and we've been married for 15+ years now and have 2 beautiful girls.

I was dragging around golf clubs before I could walk on my own, and subsequently have been playing on courses since 6 or 7 years old. I played junior golf, and high school golf, but didn't have the support needed to really take it serious past high school. I'm currently buzzing around a 2.5hcp, and luckily my house backs up to muni course that I get to play for free because I help them out quite a bit.

In regards to this test, I want to thank the admins and staff for allowing us regular folks to be involved in such amazing opportunities! My current wedges are a 50° Titleist AP2 that matches my irons, and a 56° Cleveland 588 forged that I've had for 10ish years. Both have served me well, but tech has come quite a ways so I'm excited to get the Opus stuff ordered and start hitting them. The current plan is to get a 54° S grind, and a 58° or 60° C grind to have some versatility for this test. I intend on making some videos that I'll post here and on my YouTube under the same handle. I have some ideas in mind for testing, but I'm open to suggestions to broaden this out some. I WILL NOT, REPEAT, WILL NOT HIT OUT OF MY LOCAL BUNKERS!!!!!!! There is barely any sand in them and they're hard as a rock. Just the other day I hit a 5 wood into a par 5 from 220, the ball landed in the bunker and rolled up the edge and onto the green to give me an eagle putt, that's how hard they are! There is a course down the road with nice practice areas that I'll get to. Until then, I'll be on standby until I have the wedges in my hands. I hope yall have a great day, and go out and whack some balls around!

sirchunksalot , GolferXY , ZJeb67 and 11 others

PXG Driver, AP2 irons, Cleveland wedges and Odyssey white ice 2.0

poprocksncoke

Congrats all!

gator79 , injectedcutty , Josh Parker and 5 others

sirchunksalot

Congratulations! Great group of testers here and I hope they perform as good as they look.

Owengeorge13 , GolferXY , William P and 5 others

Congratulations testers! Should be a fun one

William P , Josh Parker , bama no 1 and 2 others

Dr- Wilson Launchpad

3w,4&5H,6i-PW-Strata

52°, 56°, 60°- Bombtech

P- Cleveland Frontline Elite Cero 35"

Congratulations all.

GolfSpy_SHARK , William P , Josh Parker and 2 others

"Mr. 72"

Prediction: You'll love these wedges! Congrats!

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AKA Dark Horse

State of my game: "Breaking 85" is the new "Breaking 80".

Northern Monkey

Congrats all

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GolferXY , William P and GolfSpy_SHARK

Still swinging after all these years

Wooohoooo! Congratulations all! Have fun and grind em well!

GolfSpy_SHARK , sirchunksalot , GolferXY and 3 others

WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter.

Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time.

Congratulations Opus Testing Team!

GolferXY , GolfSpy_SHARK , Josh Parker and 3 others

Congratulations to this group of testers.

Looking forward to the comments and reviews, and how these compare to the others currently in the marketplace.

Owengeorge13 , GolfSpy_SHARK , Josh Parker and 4 others

Link to Motocaddy M7 w/Remote Trolley & Bag Review

Congrats testers!

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PING G400 LST Mitsubishi Tensei White 60X
TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X
Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X
PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100
L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5*
Srixon Z-Star XV

Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges…

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/

Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/

Congratulations testers! Looking forward in seeing your reviews and comparing them to the Vokey reviews!

GolfSpy_SHARK , Owengeorge13 , injectedcutty and 4 others

Congratulations…excited to see the feedback on these!

Josh Parker , injectedcutty , William P and 4 others

TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver

TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood

Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H)

TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons

Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60)

Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter

Congrats testers! Never used a Callaway wedge before, but I have heard good things!

GolferXY , William P , GolfSpy_SHARK and 2 others

Brandon Johnson, MBA COO / Co-founder North American Golf Tour

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D - Taylormade M1 w/ tensie pro orange
3w- Taylormade M1 w/ tensie pro orange
2i - Srixon
4- 5 Srixon 785
6- 9 Srixon z blades
PW, GW, SW, LW Cleveland rtx
true temper shafts in all of my irons
putter - Odyssey #9

GolfSpy_SHARK , William P , sirchunksalot and 2 others

18* hybrid (Taylormade)

22* hybrid (Adams)

irons - Callaway Big Bertha 2002 (It's a long story!)

Putter - Odyssey AI one 2 ball DB 35¨

Really looking forward to getting some grass in these wedges. I have never played a callaway wedge so looking forward to seeing how not only a new brand for me plays out and the MIM technology with spin control.

Cant wait to have a ball on a string!

injectedcutty , bens197 , Owengeorge13 and 5 others

Enjoy the test! Looking to replace my 56°. Wondering if one of these would be a good alternative to a new Vokey wedge.

GolferXY , Owengeorge13 and William P

Taylormade & Titleist do it for me!

Andrewxjordan

Congratulations to the testers. I have 60 C grind in my bag currently and it feels very nice.

Paradym woods

mizuno irons

titleist wedges

L.A.B putter is $$$&

Congrats all have fun! Can’t wait to read the reviews

Owengeorge13 , sirchunksalot and William P

I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

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17 minutes ago, GolfSpy_SHARK said: Really looking forward to getting some grass in these wedges. I have never played a callaway wedge so looking forward to seeing how not only a new brand for me plays out and the MIM technology with spin control. Cant wait to have a ball on a string!

I hope they're a good fit for you. Wedge tests are fun.

sirchunksalot , William P , GolfSpy_SHARK and 3 others

Congratulations everyone!

Enjoy the experience

sirchunksalot , William P , GolferXY and 2 others

Josh Parker

Congrats! Really interested in seeing how these do. Never played their wedges before and these look clean!

Owengeorge13 , William P , sirchunksalot and 2 others

ScramblinMan

Congratulations to all selected. Looking forward to your feedback

GolferXY , Owengeorge13 , William P and 1 other

Great set of testers! Good luck with the process everyone and can’t wait to see the results!

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Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour

Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Testing

Callaway Paradym

Titleist White Box Testing (2023)

Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5

3Putt4Double

Congrats testers!!

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Shafts w/ Similar Profile to Tour AD-DI driving iron?

By mwcallison February 9, 2020 in WRX Club Techs

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I think you already have your answer, the DI-driving iron. You already know you like the feel of them and it works well for you in your 3H, so why wouldn't it work in your 4H and 5H? They are also over half the price of some of these other ones you are looking at. It makes sense, doesn't it? The DJ is discontinued, as it the UT so it might be tough to find those at local dealers to try unless they have a decent enough stock pile.

A similar weighted steel option would be something like the KBS $-Taper Lite 100 (Stiff). They come in taper or parallel depending on it you want to put it straight in or have a little wiggle room for tipping (or lackthereof). They have the kind of signature KBS bend profile which is Stiff in the handle and gradually gets softer towards the tip. I don't have access to the EI software at home but from this old posting comparing the KBS models you can see they all have generally similar EI patterns (loading patterns) with the Tour-V being the weird outlier. That doesn't surprise me though as that was meant to be something KBS generally didn't have at the time, a super stiff all over shaft with a medium tip to make sure it didn't fly head high. Since the $-Taper is designed to be a compliment in between the Tour and C-Taper you can generally see that probably makes the most sense based on the slope scores below.

Callaway Paradym 9 -- Accra TZFive 60

Callaway Paradym 16 & Paradym TD 20 -- Accra TZFive 70

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Cleveland RTX 6 Zipcore 54 & 58 -- DG Spinner

Bettinardi Hive Custom -- Stability Black

Callaway Chrome Soft X LS Triple Track Yellow; Lamkin Sonar Midsize + grips

The AD DI shafts you’re talking about are the same shafts. The older ones are labeled UT but it’s the same. Had one in a FliHi for a while, solid shaft just prefer the DI hybrid profile. I agree with the other opinions, just stay in the shaft you like and you know works. They make specific lengths for the 3-4-5 irons.

Tour AD Utility/Driving Iron – Pro's Choice Golf Shafts

Were the UT version shafts iron number specific like the driving iron shafts? Trying to figure out if I need to install the UT in a specific head or whether I can choose

I think you’re right. The answer has been staring me in the face but this is my first lightbulb moment with a specific profile, so I was wondering what options were out there for more educated testing I guess.

Funny enough, I have the 120 $-tapers in my irons and gap wedge! So you’re right on that recommendation! The Lite might be a good option in my 5H!

The AD driving iron and the AD hybrid are the same shaft?

Again the UT and driving iron shaft is the same shaft. There are specific lengths for 3, 4 and 5 irons.

No the Tour AD driving iron/utility shaft and the Tour AD DI Hybrid shaft are different shafts with different bend profiles.

Oh damn. I was thinking a heavier and black version of the hybrid would be ideal.

I have the DI in my 3w, previously had it in my driver, so figured I would love the Tour AD 95x in my driving iron. I have never been more wrong in my life. I HATED it. It was a noodle and sooo unstable. I recently just swapped it out with a KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 85s and wow, what a freaking difference!

Ya the kbs proto makes a great driving iron shaft.

Thanks for the rec! What iron shafts do you use? I really like the $-tapers and am curious if this is similar to the KBS Tour profile and its progeny

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Ping G400 5w 16.9* Blueboard Ion 73x

Ping G400 7w 19.9* Ventus Red 6x

Ping G425 4h 23.5* Fuji TS 8.2s

Srixon ZU85 26 & 29* Apache MFS 85x

Ping s55 7-PW Steelfiber 110s

Ping Glide Wrx 49*, 54*, 59* SF 125s

Jailbird AI Cruiser

Currently, I use KBS C-Taper Lite X's. I could get by with the S's, but I chose the X because it was a more penetrating flight. The S had a tendency to balloon into the wind. I've never hit the $-tapers, but heard great things about em. In my wedges I have DG120S and I am very curious to try the X's in my irons and see how they perform because they're easier to load when I'm having a day when I'm sore.

I'm looking at switching to DG 120s in my wedges as well. How have they performed for you? I don't need a shaft that adds spin, but I also don't want something that is a spin reducer like the KBS 610.

Yes, that appears to be the more popular opinion since the driving iron version receives much less attention. I didn't even realize that I had the driving iron version until I noticed the slight difference in the graphics. It's really a great shaft though - very stable with a boring flight. I've never had a shot balloon with it, and that's something I struggle with on the course, especially in Texas winds.

So if I'm understanding this right, you want an AD driving shaft for you shorter hybrids? I think the move would be either using the same shaft but with a little more tipping, or trying the GD Tour AD iron shaft. https://proschoicegolfshafts.com/tour-ad-iron-shafts/ It look like they have the same specs, so it may be the same shaft. You could try the 105 in your 4 and the 115 in your 5. Will Peoples sells them to WRX members for only like $70 https://thepeoplesclubs.com/gd-tourad-iron.htmlThat's not the way it works. With high lofted wedges less dynamic loft (610) creates more spin, not less. The DG 120 is a great shaft though.

I have them in my 58, 54 and 50 degree wedges, to me they feel great. Easy to load, control, add spin, take it off and have a great feel around the greens. The spin that I put on the ball is anywhere from 8-10k roughly per my last time on FS XI Tour a few weeks ago. They skyrocket and land soft, which could be good or bad depending on conditions and yardage along with shot being played but that's just golf. I would highly recommend these shafts for your wedges if you are considering it. Based on what you play, I don't think you will regret it.

Glad you posted this. Aldila sent me the new 2020 Black Rogue Hybrid shaft. Now just need shaft it up to my M2 19* or get a new TM head.

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TM Stealth2 15* TM Ventus TR 6-S

TM Sim2 Max 19 Hybrid Ventus 7-S

Mizuno Pro 225 4-GW DG 105 S300 Mizuno T24 Denim 54S/58V DG S400

L.A.B. DF3 CB

Ya I'm looking at hose as well. Be curious of your thoughts

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