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  • 66-77 Ford Bronco
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Long travel?

  • Thread starter Northwest69EB
  • Start date Jun 7, 2016

Northwest69EB

Northwest69EB

  • Jun 7, 2016

I know this has been gone over many times but can I PLEASE get some replies with company name and kit people are using for reliable bolt/weld on long travel syspension kits?! I'm currently running the James Duff basic 3.5" old school lift kit with add-a-leaf in the rear and a 2" body lift, (I bought it like this) it's an ok lift for a street only rig but my plans go way past street only. I need my truck stable enough for 300 mile road trips and weekend wheeling adventures. I've googled the you know what out of long travel and it seems all the major early bronco parts companies ( James Duff, Wild Horses, BC Bronco, Tom’s, Bronco graveyard, Sexton and ect) sell their long travel kit and say it’s the best. I’m asking you people who really does make the very best and reliable bolt on streetable long travel! For reference my truck specs: NP435 4-sp D44 front disk w/chromolly axles and Aussie locker Rear 9” w/Datroit Soft locker Currently running 33” BFG mud terrains (35” tires in the future) JD classic 3.5” lift  

Whoaa

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It sounds like you have a nice rig now, and want to make it even better. I can tell you from personal experience that the suspension systems of today, are vasty improved and WAY better than the suspension systems of yester-year. After 20+ years of real-world driving experience, listening to their customers, refining the products, and having custom specific parts made for an Early Bronco, companies like Wild Horse's and Duff's can't be beat. Much of it will be personal perference, how much to lift it, what you're doing now and what you may do in the future, how much money you want to spend, how much time & effort you have to dedicate, and so on... Myself and many others choose to use the experts at the top two companies for several reasons. When you choose Duff or Wild Horses you're getting the best products, knowledgable sales staff, service before, during and after the sale, and involved companies that truly have a deep vested interest in the world of early Bronco's, and you personally as a customer. I'm thankfull to have such great vendors, and choices. And this website is such a valuable source of information! Other motor sports catagories don't have these options and this level of commitment from their vendors.  

Whoaa, thank you for the advice. This is my 2nd bronco the one I had 10 years ago was in much distress so I was never able to build it they way I'd hoped. Fortunately someone with the money/time/knowhow bought the truck from me and restored it, many years later I'm at a place in my life where I can afford to invest money/time/blood/sweat into this truck and I want to do it right! I will research Wild Horses/James Duff and see what they have to offer along with giving them each a call for advice.  

JSmall

What part of the Northwest are you in?  

DirtDonk

I would say that, while the springs should perform pretty much the same between our companies (I am biased a little towards our rear leaves however, but more on that later) the travel duel between us will lean to Duff right now if you opt for their long-arm setup. Very nice design and quality, and pretty much a necessity to fully take advantage of the extra travel that the shocks, mounts, springs and other things that comprise a "long travel" suspension. A stock length Bronco arm will actually work very well for most of us in most circumstances (just ask most of us!), and definitely gets you almost there. But if you're looking for that last fraction of an inch of wheel movement, long arms are the way down that path. If you're going to go that route though, and drive it on the street and to the trails still, you'll likely want to add anti-swaybars and just the right shocks to that mix. We have the setup dialed in for most circumstances except for the longer arm option. Just haven't seen anything we really liked to sell yet, and the ones we built recently were very nice, very stout, but still a little too expensive. Hopefully in all of your reading and previous Bronco experience, you're already aware of all the other stuff that goes along with wheel travel and ridding the ride of weak links. Things like brake lines, driveshafts, steering linkage, trackbars and their mounts, parking brake cables, even extra body mods in case your tire choice is at the upper end of the size range for the lift installed. If you need to know more of those details, these guys here know their stuff and are happy to give out the info based on their experiences, as well as the good, the bad and the ugly results that sometimes crop up first! Good luck Paul  

needabronco

needabronco

Here's the recipe I'd suggest. WH 3.5" coils and rear leafs, Bilstein 7100 12" travel up front and 10"s out back, extended brake lines, and tall bumpstops. Buy the Superduty shock mounts for the front, you may have to fabricate the rear mounts, but I'm sure someone sells them too. You can either fabricate your own long arms such as Lars Bars or go with the Duff arms, your choice. With 33"s that will pretty much allow you full stuff of the wheels and get some decent droop. With 35"s I'd add a 1" body lift and trim accordingly.  

Like you, mine came with a mix of early "Duff Tuff" stuff on it (plus some Rancho). I am no expert and don't have much experience with other systems out there, but the the James Duff Monster 5.5" ultimate system with no body lift is around $2300 plus shipping. http://www.dufftuff.com/System_P_5_5_Monster_Suspension_Bronco_p/5000p.htm It looks nice, rides good, and feels fantastic. I like the smooth ride and great articulation of the 5.5 monster suspension, and this package combines there Ultimate and Long Travel Suspension for the front and the back. Heck of a deal. I've lifted Blazers, Suburbans, and Land Cruisers before, but nothing is as wonderfully smooth as the aforementioned setup. body lift? Up to you, but with 35" and 5.5" you most likely will not need any body lift, plus - and this is just my own opinion - I don't like the look of a radical body lift. 1" is okay, but even there I don't like messing with throttle, steering, transmission, and transfer case linkage plus differential vent tubes, electrical, etc. On the other hand, when you're doing a massive suspension upgrade, you've got a lot of this stuff out of the way already.  

broncosbybart

broncosbybart

Completely agree with needabronco. FYI- Bloody knuckle arms are a mirror image of duffs. I'd check between the two for prices with shipping.  

My hodge podge of parts are as follows: BC bronco coils, cage arms, skyjacker leafs (don't laugh, flex well), wh extreme hoops (front), wh extreme rear shock mounts (cut rear wells kind) and duffs shocks, all 5.5 with 2" body lift. Rides and flexes really well, yet lots of body roll as mentioned in corners. However I drive to and from trails except for rubicon as I did not know what to expect up there. Not a desert racer. To change it now I would go with the 3.5" and 2" body. Getting old sucks and flexibility of my limbs has been decreasing. Keep it low and trim the body for better street ability. My .02.  

68ford

What's your budget? All stuff offered from the Broncos places to me are more like what they call mid travel in the off-road racing world.have to remember high end race trucks have 36in travel in the rear vertical. How much fabrication can you do yourself? If you can relocate the rear spring mounts, you can run a deaver race pack for a Ford ranger. They are about 10 in longer. That's what I have. I found stock length springs are good for 10in travel max before separation. My ranger pack uses all of a 16 in travel shock vertical wheel travel. So that over 50 percent more and the springs are like 200 $ more and the ride can not even be compared.  

  • Jun 8, 2016
JSmall said: What part of the Northwest are you in? Click to expand...

Thank you everyone for the info! To answer some questions yes I have planned for the additional corrections the truck will need in fact I've spent the last year replacing/upgrading all other components like extended front/rear brake lines, JD front rock crawler knuckle over high steer, front/rear lockers, JD 2" body lift, FiTech fuel injection, roll cage, front winch, bead-lock wheels, WH front/rear pre-runner bumpers, WH rock sliders and all the steering&body modifications required. I wanted to use the Duff lift as long as I could until wheel travel and traction disabled me which the point I've reached now. My main goal is to keep this truck classic but FUNctional so lots of cutting/welding/fab work is out of the question, although some components will require some welding I would really like to keep things bolt on! It sounds like I may be able to utilize some/most parts already installed and it would be great to get away with keeping/using my 3.5" lift and 2" body lift while only replace the rear OEM leaf pack +add-a-leaf and maybe swapping out the front shock mount with a tubular long travel mount or F150 tall style. As for the rear do I need dual shock? Or should I just hack off the OEM mounts and get some long travel relocation mounts? Do early broncos really need front and rear dual shocks or is this just a gimmick?  

Neither. Broncos don't need them for 95% of the types of use they're put to, but they're not a gimmick either unless they're done for fun or looks. They have their place. Just not on most rigs. Paul  

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